@IfindRetards Retarded? Yes. Unique? No. All religions are equally retarded. How those that are religious look at her is how all rational adults look at any religious person.
@Fonz476again Iβm definitely more aligned with Pantheism. I don't believe in a personal God who hands down edicts, but I believe the laws of nature and the cosmos are themselves a divine mystery. For me, science and philosophy are the only true ways to understand that force.
@Fonz476again But written in what? It sounds nice, and it's been said many times but what is this 'writing'? biology? If so then you can push back the argument to "well God made biology and physics" but this just keeps shrinking God down. It's a God of gaps in knowledge.
@Fonz476again I wouldn't want to single out Christianity haha I would just want people to use their own minds to evaluate all faith based claims. That is why I enjoy having these conversations, even if one person thinks a little more deeply about their beliefs. I appreciate you engaging.
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre That just makes them mistaken or misguided, I don't know if I would go as far as a sociopath. If we go by strict definitions, which are important.
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre Empathy maybe? hehe π Sometimes its harder to know that empathy should be engaged if you don't see or are unaware of what is being done. That is why I don't see empathy as an emotion, it is a sense that can be sharpened by more data/knowledge.
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre There is a good group called 'Abolitionists Rising' here on X that I follow, I respect the effort they do on engaging people even if they do resort to religious arguments sometimes.
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre Well I have a lot of respect for anyone who goes into these types of fields to help others and I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, I also respect those who do good deeds from a position of religious beliefs but I don't think one needs them to do good. 1/2
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre It is absolutely possible to avoid suffering. We do it every day with medicine, seatbelts, rules and regulations. Perhaps one day in the future we will find a way to reduce all suffering to rare occurrence, would that go against Gods divine plan?
@Fonz476again What would you believe if you had never been exposed to the bible? What would you base your beliefs and morals on then? If you were born in India you might believe in Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva. But even in India they have the same empathic biological system all humans have.
@Fonz476again The thing is, whether you see it or not, your understanding of him comes from the writing of other humans. You couldn't make the same claim if you grew up somewhere where you were not exposed to these writings. 1/2
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre No, they aren't psychopaths. A psychopath doesn't care about suffering at all, but these doctors genuinely believe they are reducing it. I would reiterate that it's a psychological blindness to the reality of the situation or casting the mother as the one more in need of empathy
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre If your 'truth in the heart' looks like protecting people from suffering, and my 'biological empathy' looks like protecting people from suffering, then our actions end up the same. Iβll stick with the biology, but I think we agree that at our core, humans have a built-in compass
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre I guess I just don't understand how you 'Cite' God? Does he speak to you directly? Haha I am trolling here somewhat but seriously, what do you mean by citing God?
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre Many doctors who have eventually witnessed late term procedures first hand, or been made vividly aware of what they are aborting, have had their natural empathy triggered and permanently turned against the practice.
@Fonz476again@bladeofgrass96@fearmeitsbre But even the bible has changed from old to new testament, I will grant you that many apologists hand wave that away with, new covenant this and hardened hearts that, but it shows that even your book is not unchanging.