@LondonHatch That's a good one... the edited volume (search for Chrisian america? White cover, US map on it I think) with Hatch, Noll, and Marsden is what I had in mind.
I cannot emphasize how important it is, in our context in Austin, to distinguish biblical Christianity from this. Nearly everyone I meet asks where we stand politically. Mark Knoll, Marsden, Nathan O. Hatch, Koyzis, Augustine, and James Davidson Hunter have been particularly helpful to me here. https://t.co/RkNrZBsKc5
So, the argument I was given for why your church needs paper Bibles is this. They need to be able to read the text, ponder something on their own, and "get lost" in the text... always has shaped me. BTW, that is exactly how Lewis said to read. Don't read for information; read to get lost in a story and let it be read into you.
I'm prepping for a pastor and ministry worker panel, part of the Austin Center for Faith and Work on AI... I am constantly going back to Cornelius Plantinga's argument for pastoral study as moral and spiritual formation. Do you think finding an obscure quote through Claude is as meaningful as a simple one you read in something yourself? It's not. Why? Because it did not stick in your mind and heart enough for you to remember it, even though it took you 1/10th of the time to find. Don't short-circuit the process of formation. Your people will be better off for you engaging in the hard process of study, especially since they are bombarded with AI and the demand for efficiency and higher production every day. You can espouse intellect or breathe wisdom and grace. People need the latter. Here I stand contra AI.
I think I’d push a little. Various reformers had various concerns. Wycliffe was really concerned with the way the papacy had used its spiritual authority to extort the poor, for example. It seems like all these concerns worked together but if I was gonna say, what was the defining doctrine of the Reformation, I think we’ve got to say the justification.
@Chris_Hanna_@lukestamps This is just an exception to the rule fallacy. There are just as many instances in Baptist churches where orthodoxy has languished. The question is not the exception to the rule, but the normative rule and practice that is taught biblically and is wisest.
@jenniferwilkin Jen, do you think BSF and others are teaching biblical literacy or just Bible familiarity? I've known folks in BSF who didn't know the Bible much deeper than the words on the page (still valuable, but maybe not ultimately fruitful).
A year ago a skeptic came to our group. They wrestled with faith, their past, and God over months and probably 100 hours of conversations. They came to faith and were baptized recently. Today they asked me to be a pastoral reference for their seminary application.
God is good.
Zach, the black church (AME, COGIC, NBC) largely has not agreed with liberals on key issues such as abortion and sexuality while agreeing on issues such as service to the poor. When I went to Fuller Sem and studied the history of the black church in America, this was a key distinctive from mainline denoms. What do you make of the discontinuity?
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@isaactweeting@RPLongSW@kvallier This is very different than the statement than the above commentary. Ontologically Christ is distinguished in it from something temporal and created. That’s all I was asking.
Rogan’s basic mistake is the 10 C’s are not merely part of subjective religious expression. The 10 C’s are creational mandates. They include every person not merely those that subscribe to them. Whether they hang up in a classroom or not, every person on earth is responsible to God’s Law.
Need to listen to this whole thing to get MC’s take but FTR this is a significant conversation happening between 2 of Austin’s icons in a studio 5 minutes from our church plant. This is why we planted here.
Matthew McConaughey challenged the argument against putting the Ten Commandments in schools with a question that could reignite America’s biggest religious debate.
Joe Rogan: “I think the Ten Commandments are very interesting. The problem is mandating it in classrooms what about Muslims? What about Buddhists? What about Hindus?”
McConaughey: “Is there any of the Ten Commandments that you or anyone disagrees with? Or is the problem that it can be considered an oppressive authority?”
“If we have the Ten Commandments, could everyone also have time to practice their own faith?”