@smokecrack007@CharlesWhi70865@jooztrolling@jamiehall60@kiingofcanada@AutisticClip Point 6. You snuck in the conclusion "the chain must terminate in a non-derivative actualizer" without proving it. Youd have to prove a closed system wherein causality loops is not possible. If you cant dismiss that possibility, then you cant conclude there must be a pure act.