David Tangren

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@sdcoile @WilliamShatner Or we could've done the Emancipation Proclamation. Either one of those would have celebrated something uniting.

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@Renatta Amen! We can be joyful in all things today. The world is full of trouble, but fear not, He has overcome it.

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz One other mention - it's wise to be avoid considering science settled (or rock solid). Short of scientific law, science is not canonical. Theories and hypotheses change over time.

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz That said, curiosity is important. Why do people think what they think. X is the wrong forum for a in depth discussion. But having been on both sides of this during my life, I've had my mind changed. That inspires humility.

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz I think about the overlay a lot. From the opposite view; the explanations that have been provided for a natural beginning to the universe are IMO impossible, and should be rejected scientifically as contradicting natural law.

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz Ok, thanks for clarifying. And all good.

Have you considered that it's possible that Christians give considerable thought to how what the text of the Bible explains overlays with the natural world?

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz Ok, that's a different accusation than "just making stuff up". The age is relevant to prove I didnt write it

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz Just pointing out that I didn't make it up. It was written between ~1400BC and 100AD

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@stbe84 @keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz Considering that it's in a book that was written several thousand years ago, that's just a bit of a stretch.

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@keown_michael11 @TheSkepticWiz Correct. Saying it another way - He is the Creator of all creation (John 1) meaning He is outside of (not one of the things in) creation.

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@Harri18971 @Gorilla91267617 @darwintojesus Right, fantasy books would be worthless evidence.

Books on which entire civilizations have been built however, including Islam, should not be easily dismissed. They are evidence, and should be worthy of consideration.

Did you expect a Christian to say something else?

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@Gorilla91267617 @Harri18971 @darwintojesus Absolutely right. The evidence for God is abundant. We can debate what the evidence means. But it's evidence.

A Bible about God, a church that worships God, a creation that could not have made itself without breaking its own laws. All are evidence.

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@JonHammond1701 @darwintojesus I know

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@JonHammond1701 @darwintojesus It’s more honest to say that it was outlawed from curriculum. Nothing about it can be taught on school grounds without fear of lawsuit.

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@JonHammond1701 @darwintojesus The 1st amendment protects religious expression, and ensures the government won’t dictate it. Banning the Bible and other religious texts from schools under the guise of neutrality for the last few decades has been the violation. It left 1 world view to be taught.

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@JonHammond1701 @darwintojesus This will help orient you. The banishment of religion you’re appealing to does not exist in the Constitution.

“sep of church and state” comes from an 1804 Jefferson letter to Baptists assuring them the 1st amendment prevented Connecticut from outlawing their worship.

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@JonHammond1701 @darwintojesus Kids reading religious texts in school does not violate the First Amendment. Saying that they can't does.

The idea that the Constitution says no religion on government time or property is not true. Granted we all hear that on repeat, but it isn't so.

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@DavidFischer It's awesome to see how He's working through you David. Hang in there!