Ren Dover

Introvert with ADHD!

I forgot what else I was about to say.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@asdfs01234 @salahudeen33 Those who sincerely want to learn weather the Qur'an says that or not, please read the answer by Grok.

Muslim brothers and sisters who're reading, save this, and use this post, as I see this picture of the verses above used a lot to spread Islamophobia.

https://t.co/9lfqbsHaLn

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@mehdirhasan Jude Bellingham!!! 2 goals and saved a goal as well with that clearance. What an engine. What a player.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Everything you said is false and misrepresented. You're clearly brainwashed. We don't believe any of that. You're spouting kufr right and left. May Allah be the witness.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @nielsenInsights @ShaykhSulaiman The whole issue is that you take your 'history' (which is heavily fabricated) and practices from the same narrators who state things that contradict that infallible word of Allah 🤦‍♂️

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman I've studied too. Your methodology is ad-hoc, that's why it's ridiculed by most historians. How can the same narrators narrate contradictory accounts and both be authentic? 🤦‍♂️🤣🙅‍♂️

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You clearly don't have an idea about Naskh & Mansookh. And, yes, the Qur'an establishes she was your mother. If you reject that, that's kufr. And all the 'historic' things you mentioned can be attributed to the khawarij. Ali RA considered Aisha RA his mother too in our sources.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman The same hadith corpus that contains the majority of your religion has these things within. From within that, you accept what you like and reject what you don't like, but the authentic hadith are in there buddy. So, yeah, ad-hoc.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You clearly have no idea about hadith preservation. By narrators, I mean those people who heard things from your Imams, and their sayings were later compiled by your scholars. Those people heard contradictory statements from your Imams is what I'm saying.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You believe in Tahreef, which is deliberate corruption. Your hadith corpus accuses the companions of doing it. You hadith corpus states that the true complete Quran lies with the 12th Imam.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You're conflating Tahreef with Naskh & Mansookh. Tahreef means the Qur'an was deliberately corrupted, whereas Naskh & Mansookh is a concept established by Allah Himself as per chapter 2. Allah revealed those verses, but they were NEVER meant to be in the Qur'an in the first place

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@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Aisha RA was the youngest and the most academically active wife of the prophet PBUH. She took it as a duty to transmit the wealth of knowledge she possessed regarding the daily life of Rasool Allah SAW.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You're talking about your mother like that? No wonder you're so filthy.

The breastfeeding here is indirect, with milk poured into containers. Aisha RA had the status of mother of believers from the Qur'an itself, and she sought extra protection so she made her students Mahram.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman See how ad-hoc your religion is? You take your religious practices from the same narrators who also narrate ahadith that contradict the Qur'an 🤦‍♂️

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman There's a concept of Naskh & Mansookh within the Qur'an as established in chapter 2. So, yes, those verses (about stoning and breastfeeding) WERE revealed to the prophet PBUH, but only for their legislation, and not for recitation or as part of the Qur'an.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman Some verses were revealed to the prophet PBUH that were not meant to be recited or be part of the Qur'an, but their legislation was to be applied still.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@nielsenInsights @LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman See, the filthy liars brought the hadiths regarding abrogated stuff.

Surah Al-Baqarah 2:106: "We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?"

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@LionHeart9001 @ShaykhSulaiman You're a filthy liar. Bring me one authentic Sunni hadith that says the Qur'an is corrupted. Abrogation doesn't mean corruption, because it is established within the Qur'an itself. If Shia hadith don't matter then why do you take your religion from them? 🤔🤦‍♂️

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@BaharJay @ShaykhSulaiman Then I suggest you read the Shia hadith corpus.

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@musta91340260 @ShaykhSulaiman Allah, who knows the future, promises paradise to the Muhajireen and Ansar, in Qur'an 9;100. The people included in the verse are the same people Shia consider to be disbelievers 🤦‍♂️

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@musta91340260 @ShaykhSulaiman Qur'an 6 (84-86) states that Allah chose prophets over the worlds. And you believe that not just Ali (RA), but even the 11th and 12th Imams were greater than Abraham, Moses, and Jesus?

[Ren Dover @Delta_Snake2]

@musta91340260 @ShaykhSulaiman Unfortunately, I'm not. These things are in their hadith books. Also, again, this is just one of their many absurd beliefs. They think all but 5-10 companions apostated, they think Imams > Prophets. These beliefs are fundamentally against the Qur'an.