Hot take:
Let’s all not jump on Ethan. Yes it was horrible, wrong, unfair, and stupid of him to do what he did. Yes, his actions are unforgivable. Yes he should disappear from the internet.
And of course I feel for Hila, and I know exactly how that kind of betrayal feels. Having a partner for over a decade, a majority of your life, betray you in that way, and to catch them in the lies. I’ve been in those exact shoes.
However Ethan has a serious history of mental health issues. He has talked about how Hila has pulled him back from the edge multiple times, and I don’t want to see the climax of this drama end in a loss of life.
You think it’s hard on the kids now? Imagine how difficult growing up without him entirely would be, vs seeing him every other weekend and Wednesdays.
Core issue in the culture we need to rectify:
Video games should not be treated as art. EA, Sony, Microsoft, do not exist as patrons for art projects. The corporations exist to generate revenue. Anyone saying otherwise is lying. They are producing products. And products need to sell.
You want to make an artistic game? Fine, go make mixtape. Make it out of your garage. Have you and your 3 other team members survive off ramen noodles. And maybe you do pop off and make it. More than likely you’ll be like Van Gogh, and die before anyone appreciates your art.
But if you jump into the AAA pool, and have all the benefits that come from working for “the man”, you have to justify those paychecks. You gotta swim. And the only way to swim in that world, is producing profit. And the only way to do that, is to make great games.
Maybe companies should make game development commission based.
Caring about gaming means celebrating when companies that make bad games are shut down.
The desperate urge by weirdos like you to label any dissenting opinion as "grifters profiting off of hate" speaks to how weak your position actually is. You wouldn't need to throw this ridiculous strawman at every opinion you disagree with if you had any arguments of actual merit against them.
That’s very hard to say. I don’t know if I would directly call any creative endeavor as art. Creativity went into the engineering of a spark plug, but I’d be hard pressed to call that art. I don’t think I could call something natural art either.
I look at a handcrafted chair made by a carpenter, something designed for sitting, arguably a product, but also something I’d be willing to call art.
Then I look at an ikea chair, something that does the exact same thing, serves the exact same function, but I wouldn’t ever consider calling that art.
I don’t think it’s the “human” behind it either cause if the carpenter was gluing particle board together in mass, that I would consider it art.
My point with the above post is more about the culture around calling something art. Art in itself doesn’t require a “purpose” while a product does. And I’m saying triple A games function more like IKEA furniture than handcrafted chairs, so we should treat those products as such.
I think we are kinda saying the same thing.
I just don’t believe the mindset of “games as art” works within tripple A space. It’s the difference between a carpenter and a particle board furniture factory.
Both make chairs. Both exist to sell chairs. But I would sooner call the carpenter an artist than I would the small Taiwanese child gluing legs to cushions.
(Thanks for the love big dawg, it’s okay we ain’t gotta like everything about each other 💋)
Fundamentally, I think the label of art is used too loosely as well. I’ve met people who believe nature itself is art.
For example: a carpenter 500 years ago, he would make a shelf by hand. He has studied the craft his whole life, and he pours his soul into that shelf. I would consider that shelf to be “art”. I would not however consider the IKEA shelves to be art.
Fundamentally they are both shelves, and they serve the same purposes. But to me there is a difference. that’s how I feel about games.
@SallTheSmug That’s exactly my point, AAA games don’t operate in the same space and Indie games. We shouldn’t treat AAA franchise as art.
Would you consider Buzz lightyear toys as art? I would say there are artistic aspects to the buzz toy, but I don’t think I’d say that toy itself is art.
@Creetosis22 Genuinely elder scrolls six is make or break for them. And I don’t think the company can afford for it to be “mid”. It has to hit, or… welcome home 🍔
They find themselves in a hole.
- mismanaged an IP for nearly 10 years
-created a day around that miss managed IP
-nothing new ready
Yeah they shouldn’t be in this current position, and deserve massive criticism for it.
In the same breath, I think it’s good they are communicating expectations.
Should they have nothing to show? No. Ofc they shouldn’t. I’m sick of fallout 76. And it’s been over a decade since a mainline fallout game. It’s unacceptable for a company their size with the financial backing they have.
But if you were Bethesda and you find yourself if this terrible position (that you put yourself in) I’d rather you tell me there is nothing so I can check out of the “celebration” entirely.
People mad about this,
why yall mad? They telling you there is nothing to be hyped about. I rather them set my expectations beforehand vs. watching an hour stream of “thank you, zig zig ah” to end in nothing.
This is the communication we asked for.
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