@RayCass1@DeschutesSO@1110KBND No violence until guns? You might want to reread the Bible, tons of violence. Cain and Able, the Christians thrown to the lions, and my fav Christ on a cross. If that's not violence then I don't know what is
@OregonDOT it started snowing last night, and no gravel or anything this morning with 4 inches of snow and ice on the highways, lots of accidents. My commute was one of the hardest I've had in my 35 years of living here. Also your variable speed signs were reading 65 mph for ice