@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah You’ve reduced your entire “morality” argument to a bathroom analogy because you have nothing more intelligent to offer. A woman does not become a urinal because she committed zina, and the man who committed it with her doesn’t magically become innocent.
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah “Real men feel disgust” is not an Islamic principle; it’s your personal misogyny dressed up as masculinity. Qur’an tells believing men to guard their private parts, not to degrade women for theirs. Your disgust doesn’t make you morally superior.
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah You keep confusing physical consequences with moral worth. There is no universal “sign” on a woman that proves she committed zina, and your disgust is your personal prejudice, not Islamic law. Qur’an 24:30 commands men to guard their own private parts.
@KoshurBerozgar@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah It doesn’t “affect women more” in the moral sense, that’s what society has normalised by placing the entire burden and shame on women while letting men escape the same scrutiny.
@KoshurBerozgar@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah Calling men “cucks” because they marry women with sexual past doesn’t make you honourable; it just exposes how desperately you need your personal preferences to sound like divine law. An “honourable man” is still accountable for his own zina. Qur’an 24:30 addresses men directly.
@ALIUMAIRMALHI@freakyf4rwa So your point is no longer that technology can’t reliably detect pregnancy; it’s that the waiting period ensures a future husband knows whether there’s a pregnancy from the previous marriage. Then why is a fixed 4 month period necessary when pregnancy can be established earlier?
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah Your entire argument rests on a pathetic level of ignorance. Semen entering a woman does not make her a “public urinal,” nor does it erase the man’s responsibility. Qur’an 24:30 commands men to guard their private parts. Your misogyny isn’t theology.
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah A woman’s body is not changed by men and even if women can face physical consequences men don’t, that doesn’t absolve men. Sex is a mutual act, and Qur’an 24:30 commands men to guard their chastity. Qur’an 24:2 holds male and female fornicators accountable. No male clean chit.
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah No one said a widow and a woman who committed zina are the same. You’re dodging the actual point. You called women “whores” and “public urinals,” then claimed men can’t be shamed. The Qur’an holds male and female fornication accountable.
@KoshurBerozgar@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah Calling men “weak” for marrying women with sexual pasts doesn’t make your misogyny Islamic. Qur’an 24:30 commands men to guard their own private parts. Worry about male accountability before policing women’s bodies and pretending your personal preferences are divine law.
@KoshurBerozgar@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah “Men do the action, women merely receive it” is your excuse for giving men a clean chit? Qur’an 24:30 explicitly commands men to guard their private parts. If zina makes her a “whore,” the man who committed it is equally responsible. No male exemption.
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah “Men do the action, women merely receive it”, what a ridiculous attempt to absolve men. Qur’an 24:2 explicitly holds the male and female fornicator accountable. So if she’s a “hoe” for zina, the man who committed it with her is one too. No male exemption.
@KoshurBerozgar@sfnmgmullah He is a hoe because he disobeyed the laws of God.
He is a public urinal because he gave his most important quality( calling virginity someone’s most important quality really reflects your mindset) to a woman in an un-Islamic way.
@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar “Apni limits banao gi to barbadi hai” is exactly the kind of self-righteous threat you should keep to yourself. Worry about your own life instead of appointing yourself the judge of everyone else. It’s nothing but arrogance.
@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar Are you out of your mind? Misogyny is not “Islam.” And what does “using feminism and misogyny to detract people from Islam” even mean? Stop interpreting Allah’s limits your own way and lecturing others. Worry about your own life and deen. You’re making no coherent point.
@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar How easily you accept that men are exempt because of societal norms. It’s pathetic and disgusting. Gender discrimination is appalling and one of the reasons behind our downfall as a society. Society needs to change, and it needs to be held accountable for allowing such behaviour.
@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar Exactly, using labels and objectifying one gender while completely ignoring/overlooking the other is completely wrong. That person was speaking from pure hatred and misogyny not from facts.
@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar You’re dodging the point. You called her “used” because she had sex with a man. If sex makes a woman “used,” then your logic applies regardless of whether the sex was halal or haram. And why does your “used” label never seem to apply to the man? Is a man also a “public urinal”?
@ALIUMAIRMALHI@freakyf4rwa You’re contradicting your own argument. Technology having errors doesn’t prove 4 months 10 days is necessary; it only proves errors exist. And if it’s simply a commandment, stop using technology as the justification. Also, what does “baby is in scene” mean?
@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar If sex makes a woman “used,” your logic applies to every sexually active person, not just women who committed zina. Why exempt men who had zina? Why no outrage for men? That is not morality; it is a sexual double standard.
@Autoimmuneo92@sfnmgmullah@KoshurBerozgar If Allah can forgive a sin, it is between the person and God. You have no authority to turn repentance into a permanent label. The Qur’an itself forbids insulting people or calling them offensive names (49:11). So who gave you the right to brand anyone “used”?