@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 Yeah it's a reasonable take, just usually these arguments are used by full on anti-vaxxers, which is why I'm pretty wary of them.
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 Not at all, I'm not a communist. I simply believe certain freedoms must be restricted to maintain greater one's, such as one's life. My profile is just a meme bro lol
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 Does Covid have 5 years of research on the long term effects it has upon people? This asymmetry in logic is really highlighting a bias
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 The study I referenced said 'potentially chronic cardiovascular effects'. Getting a heart or lung disease is something possible when contracting Covid-19, something much more serious than the suspected long term-effects of the Pfizer vaccine.
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 Why then would you be so adamant on refusing a vaccine if the same unknown, long-term effects seem to be not only present but greater in Covid-19 than something like the Pfizer vaccine? By your own logic, not getting infected should be an absolute priority.
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 The flu is not a good comparison since we've had a vaccine since the 1940's and largely negated it's impact. Covid on the other hand is not anywhere as well researched or understood and can, in many cases, lead from acute to chronic cardiovascular issues......
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 than those of the vaccine, and certainly worse than the current evidence for, and suspected, long-term side effects of the Pfizer vaccine.
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 'potentially face unknown long term repercussions', why never mention those effects of the virus itself, which you would be more likely to contract unvaccinated? Evidence suggests different long-term side effects of Covid 19, such as multi-organ effects, are potentially worse...
@MikeMaher777 @Dara__02 @rossymiller101 There's obviously lines we draw, you can't use your bodily autonomy to take away another's. Using your 'autonomy' to put other's at risk is a breach of theirs.
@MikeMaher777 @Dara__02 @rossymiller101 If you want to wait 5 years then be my guest, but I highly doubt you would be so prudent in other aspects of your life that may contain risk
@MikeMaher777 @Dara__02 @rossymiller101 That's the AstraZeneca vaccine. Besides that risk is very rare. I would be for people being able to choose which vaccine they want, just not choosing to take a vaccine or not.
@MikeMaher777 @Dara__02 @rossymiller101 We do, of 6-month long effects. The connotation of 'experimental' is that the efficacy and side effects are unknown, which they are not according to studies looking at the vaccine effects over 6 months in 44,000 people. Most had mild symptoms and nobody died from it.
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 Who cares about what some politician said? The vaccines will only become safer and safer with more time and data. By the time 20 year olds are being vaccinated, it'll be the safest it's been
@MikeMaher777 @Dara__02 @rossymiller101 'Infectious disease experts cautioned that the results could not be interpreted as evidence that lockdowns were unnecessary but acknowledged they may indicate Swedenโs overall stance on fighting the pandemic had merits worth studying.' 2nd paragraph of the article
@MikeMaher777 @Dara__02 @rossymiller101 You can call them experimental if you like, but the data suggests that the side effects are short lived and not serious. Low opportunity cost and you lessen the likelihood of spreading the virus.
@MikeMaher777@rossymiller101 You can make that case sure, but if the vaccine causes you to be less likely to transmit the virus and you don't have it, how it that any different than not being allowed in a store because you don't have a face mask?