@MortalFiber Ive ended up blocking a couple that refuse to consider the idea that Strawb is in the wrong to some extent as well as Ember, as well as in direct violation of her own scriptures :P mostly for my own sanity
@kingzzoof "The word of God can never simply be equated with the letter of the text. To attain to it involves a transcending and a process of understanding... It excludes by its nature everything that today is known as fundamentalism." Pope Benedict XVI
with that this convo is over. bye.
@cb03c66 Dude FELT. Riot support has had such a decline with these canned responses, refusal to discuss for even 5 minutes, and straight up ignoring requests. Its insane. My Valo ban happened when i was homeless and they wouldnt even tell me when the ban occurred
@kingzzoof Okay since you cant make the connection yourself heres the passages in line with the exact moral question they pose. If you cant engage meaningfully with me after reading and hopefully comprehending it, i'll consider this conversation over due to lack of capacity on your part.
@kingzzoof Firstly-- its not cherrypicking. I cited multiple verses across old and new testament and applied them to the situation-- which youre failing to do. and ONCE AGAIN. stop using strawman arguments. Im not arguing to cover up lies . Im talking about Strawbs actions in particular.
@kingzzoof Proverbs 5:22, 1 John 1:9, Titus 3:9, proverbs 26:20, Proverbs 16:28, Matthews 18:15, Matthews 5:23, Proverbs 25:9, Matthews 18:16 All those passages condemn Strawbs actions and offer leniency to Embers. Not total absolution. Lenience. Dont use strawman arguments please.
@Art3misEntr3ri To her IRL<->Ember gender ID or IRL specific gender confusion is all speculation. Either way, Strawb and her party of goons lack a lot of moral high ground they claim to stand on.
@Art3misEntr3ri Intentionally implies she meant to. From all the evidence it was a โgo with the flowโ web of ommissionary lies until it got to the point that confronting them became hard. Especially given Emberโs admittance of her own gender confusion. Whether that confusion is in relationโ
@kingzzoof So murder and manslaughter are the same crime to you? Intent matters.
Now unless youโre willing to return to my original debate of Strawbs actions and their opposition to *HER* Christian faith, Ill wish you a good day.
@Kodi_DToTheB@Leaflit If youd be willing something Ive been challenging people to do- mostly unsuccessfully- is to pit Strawbs actions under the Christian Moral Framework she subscribes to using passages from the bible.I dont practice the faith, just love sinking my teeth theological ethics and morals
@ChoirBat Now i will specify: Is everyone doing that? Not at all. Is it common enough that I think your post is reductive? Absolutely. Ive had several people engage in good faith, and I enjoyed my debates with them.
@ChoirBat Except apparently the line is death threats. Insults, fallacious arguments, DARVO-esque tactics, and bad-faith arguments are fine. Source: like 70% of the โChristiansโ Ive challenged to pit Strawbs actions under the same scrutiny as Ember, under cited Christian doctrine. โCivilโ.
@darlingstrawbie@Zyolus And yet youve refused to engage with any criticism of your actions within your own christian mora framework. Its been 5 days. Most of which passed after Ember took accountability for the lies. Through this crusade in opposition to your faiths teachings you made Ember a victim too
@kingzzoof Thats an insane escalation.
Then why are you insulting me and my points that are specificaly pointing at Strawbs actions specifically in opposition to her faith under the Christian moral doctrine?
@LoreLeo1939 The passages Ive been giving to people that i feel relate the most and inviting debate on. Ill give the screenshots of my notes of their relevance for you. If im misrepresenting them please correct me, as its not my faith, i just have a hyperfixation on moral theological frames