Emzen

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Trying to change it, such as conversation therapy, is torture, as it only causes harm to the person exposed to it and doesn't achieve any results. That's also why you cannot make people not trans

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Wrong, gender identity is a widely accepted concept, to deny it's existance is anti-science. We know that humans possess a sense of gender, because no matter how hard you try to change it, a person's gender identity will be unchanged

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Naeluckmate @Jenwaynecleaver They famously didn't; they were mass murdered actually

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate That's not what a chair is!

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Rhonda574394913 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate You'll notice, no it isn't

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Rhonda574394913 @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate You'll notice that nowhere did I say that

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Alright then, a woman is a gender identity. One that is unmeasurable, yet innate and can't be changed by any means

I'd like to ask a question in return then, what is a chair? Give me a definition that includes every single chair and excludes every single non chair.

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate No, you don't, you'd notice then that trans men are men, and trans women are women

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Is one case enough to prove that claim? Would me finding a case of a doctor who specifically mistreats trans people then be proof that the medical institutes are discriminating against trans people?

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate No, they are

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Oh, I didn't know the world is so small!

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Good argument! You really convinved me there!

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate How? If a body is more resembling of a cis female, by looking overall at the primary and secondary sex characteristics, including, but not limited to, sexual organs, hormones, genetics etc. How and why do you consider that body male?

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@lalilibi @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate I did not say that women are defined solely by the effects of HRT, I only corrected the previous person by adding some, but not all, other different effects. To assume that this is what I consider a woman to be is really bad faith

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate You want to achieve the eradication of trans people, like nazis did!

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate Oh, Sterilization of children is also not a thing that trans people want to achieve. I could very much say make the same infographic about you! You are lying, like nazis, you are transphobic, like nazis, you are bioessentialist like nazis, what else...

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@GenderCthulu @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate That is still not a source to that claim!

[Emzen @Emzen449093]

@GenderCthulu @Jenwaynecleaver @Naeluckmate That is an unsourced claim by a lady, I can say that she is lying and for that, as we both have no proof, it means my claim is as good as hers