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@NemoEntropy @NlTECRAWLERS @cj110106 @the_moral_abc They benefit more from being rich than directly from transmisogyny but sure, whatever helps u sleep at night

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@NlTECRAWLERS @NemoEntropy @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Its still not predating class society tho, which is my point. Also, if we were to analyze todays religious insitutions, a lot of them get funding from capitalists specifically (like how neopentecostalism was funded by the CIA, for example).

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@NemoEntropy @onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc "Leveraged her identity to lie" oh i just know ur dying to call trans women male socialized and AMAB-provileged.
Not arguing if said case is real or not cus it doesnt matter since there are other examples i could use (afab-only housing, terfs defending afab-only spaces, michfest

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@NemoEntropy @onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Do i really gotta pull up the receipts of trans women being sexually abused at michfest for u dawg

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@NlTECRAWLERS @NemoEntropy @cj110106 @the_moral_abc But not class societey! I meant to say the word for burguesia but english is a shit language that borrowed the word from french and idk how to spell that

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@NemoEntropy @onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Itd be real nice if u picked up a book on intersectionality instead of crashing out at strangers online cus they dare to treat trans men like men

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@NemoEntropy @onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc "anti-transmasculinity" just say u believe misandry is real bro

"V-coding just means youre being treated like a wife" is vile too, i dont even know why i bother tbh

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@NlTECRAWLERS @NemoEntropy @cj110106 @the_moral_abc I think the issue here is the fact that i dont consider the institutions u mentioned to be "men oppressing women" and moreso "capitalists oppressing the working class" since most legislature oppressing sspecific groups can be ignored/worked around with enough money/influence

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@NlTECRAWLERS @NemoEntropy @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Im confused as to what ur arguing when my point is that in the same sense that a disabled man can be both oppressor and oppressed, so can a trans man. Unless u believe trans men arent men in a material sense, this should be common sense

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@NlTECRAWLERS @NemoEntropy @cj110106 @the_moral_abc That being said, u have access to and benefit from systemic transmisogyny and often times regular misogyny, depending on how much u wanna cling to bioessentialist rhetoric and ur agab

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@NlTECRAWLERS @NemoEntropy @cj110106 @the_moral_abc This is like saying disabled men arent or seldom are oppressors cus theyre discriminated against and have no representation with direct access to government institutions, which i think is silly and also an excuse not to examine internalized transmisogyny

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@fishnetxsyk @onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Its not systemic tho, its awful but its also not equivalent.

I agree terfs infantilize trans men but i dont think its arguable that terfs only actually hate trans women since they often advocate for afab only spaces, thus making it less worse for them while still not being good

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc "Trans men are oppressors/privileged over trans women" and "trans men are oppressed" are not mutually exclusive, pls read a book instead of gaslighting random trans women online

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@cj110106 Sure but my point is even the cisbinary isnt a monolith unless picturing a cishet white dude and so comparing the two and going "but were not as bad as c1s ppl" isnt productive at all and only serves for trans men to absolve themselves from standing up to transmisogyny

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Its not conditional privilege when most of what i cited applies regardess of passing/stealth.

And to give an example, being able to weaponize transmisogyny against trans women is something that can be done by anyone not transfem and, for trans men, regardless of passing/stealth

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Do u want me to dig up transfemicides as a gotcha as well or are we gonna keep pretending i said trans men face 0 oppression

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Also they will, they can just say "actually im afab" and they will be let in, there was just discourse about this exact thing happening like, last week

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc So????????? They have even more privilege?????????????????

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Notice how i never said 0 oppression and said trans men have access to mostly the same tools other kinds of men use to reproduce systemic oppression of trans women?????? (Sometimes c1s women too if they pass but besides the point). I think the one not reading is you...........

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@onewitchwillow @cj110106 @the_moral_abc Terfs love afab only spaces what can i say