@CivilModerate "they will never be able to know God"
They can be baptized like any other child and subsequently go to heaven and experience the beatific vision of God.
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 When considering that reason you have to acknowledge the epistemic humility aspect then because how could you know what the threshold of quality of life would be that would be preferable to nonexistence. Which is just not a knowable thing.
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 Not to derail this too far, but are you vegan? It seems like it would be consistent to then not kill animals because they prefer to keep living?
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 Most people when deciding to have sex or abstain aren't weighing whether the life of the potential child is worth potentially suffering, they're making the decision based on their own circumstances. Which is caveated in the post.
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 But having an abortion is an action, you have to weigh these when deciding whether or not to engage in the action if you're ostensibly doing the action for a reason.
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 Although for the nonreligious it's really a distinction without a difference, death is just a transition from life to nonexistence.
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 Or rather nonexistence since you don't believe it's actually a death. Whether nonexistence is preferable to suffering is not an answerable question.
@Eli_B_Again@BradyJ1026 It doesn't rely on that premise at all. Its equally valid whether the fetus is a person or will eventually develop into a person. Either way you're weighing whether or not a life is worth existing. Whether that life already exists isn't relevant.
@OzzyAussieOtty The great thing is to direct the malice to his immediate neighbours whom he meets every day and to thrust his benevolence out to the remote circumference, to people he does not know. The malice thus becomes wholly real and the benevolence largely imaginary. -Screwtape