Exmo2EO

☦️ Lord, have mercy. Glory to thee in all things. Not my will, but thine be done. ☦️ DISCLAIMER: I do not give official Orthodox positions; just my own thoughts

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@SKabukistan Bible verses are subject to proper interpretation.

Early Christian writings refute the LDS interpretation that the Holy Ghost answers requests for specific truth claims, such as “is the BoM true?”

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

Something to consider with an aspect of LDS culture, and which I would personally argue carries the weight of an informal doctrine because apostles have given it as guidance so much. I’m referring to warnings to avoid “anti-Mormon” material.

I believe that counsel flies directly in the face of LDS’s claim that they can receive personal confirmation to specific knowledge claims through the Holy Ghost.

If you have been given a means by which to know the truth of all things, you would have no reason to fear or avoid any knowledge claims. Of course, we’re talking in a context where you are actively posting your positions publicly and proactively making claims about anti-Mormon content.

If you put yourself in that circumstance, which every Mormon on X does when they post or comment, you should engage every anti-Mormon response (subject to time constraints) in order to share the specific truth you have received from the Holy Ghost.

Otherwise, it’s reasonable to assume you don’t actually have access to a method of confirming truth claims through the Holy Ghost. But that would then undermine Joseph’s reason for the First Vision and Moroni’s Promise.

[James B Brown @not_op_rockwell]

@thealchemist473 No. You're a bad faith actor, we have been counseled to not waste our time with those who engage in bad faith and I have already engaged more than I should.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@SobsOfMyHeart @Apologetics941 *Don’t recall what happens after.

But I think you were being sarcastic

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@SobsOfMyHeart @Apologetics941 Don’t recall. I’ve tuned out most of the endowment session and I never personally wanted to stand in the circle.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@Sola_GPT There’s a high likelihood it begun with “And it came to pass there were giants…”

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

I’ll-informed. Which doctrine am I misunderstanding? The ability to know all things, including specific truth claims, through the Holy Ghost is LDS doctrine. The counsel to avoid anti-Mormon content is not doctrine. I said it’s not doctrine and rhetorically said it carries a lot of weight.

Poorly reasoned. You misunderstood the connection I was making between avoiding anti-Mormon content and the ability to know truth through the Holy Ghost. Not that I accept LDS interpretations of Orthodox/Catholic tradition compiled in the Bible, but you’re confirming that I understand the LDS doctrine about the Holy Ghost. “And yet, we teach…”. Yes, that was half of the contradiction I’m alleging.

“you claim that a warning to avoid ‘anti-Mormon material’ is inconsistent with our teaching that the Holy Ghost can confirm truth.” This demonstrated above that Inunderstand the LDS positions. What I’m pointing out is that the behavior is inconsistent. If you can receive specific truth claims from the Holy Ghost, ask for better arguments to counter what you believe are easily refutable claims against the LDS worldview.

Christ and Paul gave warnings about false teachers and false teachings. So? They constantly engaged and countered false teachers and false teachings. Further, they did not teach that you’ll receive specific truth claims through the Holy Ghost. In fact, LDS burning in the bosom is one of the false teachings. You can quote scripture, but you won’t find the LDS principle supported by any of the early Church Fathers/Christian writings. Your biblical interpretation relies on LDS “prophets” and Joseph’s claims, which rely on your burning in the bosom confirmation, which rely on LDS “prophets” and… it’s circular.

Claiming access to knowledge of all things and also telling people to avoid some knowledge claims is, in my opinion, bad advice; especially when you believe every member is to be a missionary, which entails consistently running into people making false claims.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@JackMoRebellion @grok @fjord_wanderer @not_op_rockwell Exmo stands for Extra Mormon.

When your arguments consist of faggots and balls, we all know hats going on…

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@NormieUtah The Catholic church was bringing them in. Their federal funding dried up soon after the USAID stuff.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@Mormonger I think we can all agree Alyssa makes dumb arguments.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@JackMoRebellion @grok @fjord_wanderer @not_op_rockwell Neither are you if you don’t post your patriarchal blessing.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

P1 is flawed because LDS Christ is an eternal intelligence born to heavenly parents, has the same ontology as humanity, and is subject to an eternal, self-existent reality (Platonism) and its moral laws. He is essentially a really awesome, nice pagan god; the type of deity that scripture speaks against.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@grok @JackMoRebellion @fjord_wanderer @not_op_rockwell Grok can’t recreate having lived a Mormon life and knowing its doctrines and culture from the inside.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@therealstandage You should follow the burning in your bosom.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

Summary:

You think LDS is Sola Scriptura as long as it’s LDS scripture.

Your prophets gave incorrect teachings in the past (so we can infer that current LDS general authorities are also likely giving bad counsel).

Godmakers can be backed by LDS leaders’ teachings, but that was then and this is now.

And what was the straw man you’re referring to?

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@MormonMarksman Nobody said that.

I’m simply suggesting you follow your prophets… every member a missionary. Heavenly Father put the burden on you, not me. Happy to remind you.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@SKabukistan You’re welcome to engage with this one.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

Just clarifying my opinion in response to your question and the accusation that I have some beef.

My position wasn��t that the LDS church teaches people to be Christlike. It’s the opposite… LDS teach incorrect doctrines. Despite that, Mormons (and others) could live the Gospel.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

Does God suggest a loaded test to answer…

[Let’s Talk w/ Hayden Carroll @Lets_Talk_HC]

Is The Book of Mormon true?

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

I asked “what part(s)”. That means part or parts; you could have given one example or many. Instead, you’ve avoided the challenge completely and strawmanned the request as “refute it all or you’re wrong.”

You must be one of the most fragile, bad-faith commenters on LDSX. Top 10 for sure.

[Exmo2EO @Exmo2EO]

@JackMoRebellion @not_op_rockwell “it’s this faggot” = “I don’t know my own doctrine well enough to name a single error without getting called out and looking stupid.”

You have 4 days to repent before sacrament meeting.