@Bunnyboop15@RoseryZoetrope@cardinal_craft I’m advocating for the economic liberation of all peoples which will make people atheists in the long run as they don’t need opiates to get through the day anymore.
I also think religion is stupid and a bad thing, always, as it is foundationally irrational.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo I read most of the old thinkers of anarchism and an assortment of newer ones. Though I consider myself a Marxist nowadays. After reading the three volumes of capital, all anarchist theory kind of felt vapid. Marx was a genius.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo No as an assortment of cultures and anthropological records it is a regular treasure trove. It is their analysis and conclusions that I think makes it a bad book.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo Could but too lazy. It’s not a single quote but the entire argument he’s trying to make in the first place. If you DM me, we can chat about it. I hate twitter for its character limit.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo I think it’s easy to overestimate the influence of Kandiaronk and Graeber wants you to overestimate it because it fits the point he’s trying to make.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo I get what you mean. Sorry for being so aggressive. I just disagree with the quote. Anarchism as a concrete ideology is very recent and arose directly as a response to capitalism. It is messy internally and tough to define but overcoming capitalism and the state is the core.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo I don’t think anarchism is petty bourgeois. We don’t disagree there. I also think the historical record disproves that. Most tendencies anarchists like to claim weren’t actually about abolishing the state. Also the early thinkers of anarchism were inspired by the French commons.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo Yeah it does try that and Graeber said so in the book. He just paraphrased. But his book like all anthropological evidence proves Marx and Engels right again and again and again. As soon as you have a surplus you go from primitive communism to class society. And back (!).
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo Not being capitalist doesn’t mean them not being a class society. Feudal Europe wasn’t capitalist either. Still a class society. You pretending that the label class society doesn’t apply to non-European societies is why you believe in a noble savage.
@powersthatbb@Bolshevik_Virgo A lot of societies existed outside of capitalism. They were class societies or primitive communist, depending on whether they produced surplus. Non-Europeans weren’t and aren’t special noble savages. I don’t think you know what any of these terms mean.
@UnlistedTweeter@RaynBolchiviki I don’t care what he called himself or what he described his system to be. It was capitalism, he was not a Leninist. He was historically progressive - at least moreso than Atatürk - but still a bourgeoise nationalist first and foremost.
@Phormio_Lake Theologians are unironically so much smarter than this nonsense. I have a deep respect for anyone that is capable of thinking intensely about any topic. But it’s still made up. I can engage with theological debates but I can’t and won’t accept it’s real.
@aleah_nana@Bolshevik_Virgo The petty bourgeoisie has ceased existing in any meaningful sense. I think people here just use it as an insult, because they have never read anything. Nowadays pretty much everyone is proletarian. The Nazis could work with roughly 50% of the population being petties.