So,I’ve been writing a serialised fantasy novel that I like to think of as Narnia meets Naruto. You can read the first two chapters of it below! #youngadultfiction#youngadultfantasy
https://t.co/w0RcNdRPk9
@Xtopher_Uzo Scripture calls praise, adoration and devotion sacrifices. So, by your logic, if you bow down to a graven image, pray to it, ask for protection, devote yourself to it and praise it, that’s idolatry.
@Beomfloat88@patristicpill Lol no it doesn’t 🤣 It proves that Moses & Elijah appeared with Jesus at the transfiguration, not that if you prayed to St Anthony right now he would hear you.
@Soupy_@patristicpill Informal logic is evaluating whether something logically follows. Is it fallacious? Is there sufficient evidence? Is the premise well supported? Etc.
@Beomfloat88@patristicpill Think it was pretty easy given they were right there with him. But did the disciples speak to them? Did they ask them to intercede for them?
Really? So the disciples spoke to Moses & Elijah?
And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with him. And Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here. If you wish, I will make three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.”
��� Matthew 17:3-5
And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James and John, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. And he was transfigured before them, and his clothes became radiant, intensely white, as no one on earth could bleach them. And there appeared to them Elijah with Moses, and they were talking with Jesus. And Peter said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good that we are here. Let us make three tents, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” For he did not know what to say, for they were terrified. And a cloud overshadowed them, and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my beloved Son; listen to him.”
— Mark 9:2-7
@Soupy_@patristicpill You’re being pedantic, so allow me rephrase it for you.
If you have a math book that provides answers to specific math questions, said book can answer those questions, yes?
@lordpandaxx@Xtopher_Uzo Either provide the infallible magisterial interpretation of John 6, refute my argument point by point or I’m muting you as you’re wasting my time.
John Chrysostom was writing in the late 4th century! 🤣That’s not historical, that’s conjecture and tradition and no one before him mentioned Ignatius as a disciple. Irenaeus doesn’t say anything about Ignatius being a disciple of John. Polycarp is also not directly connected. He was said to be a companion of Papias who made a point of speaking to disciples of the apostles and yet never mentions his “companion” as being one of those disciples 🤷🏾♂️
I’ve explained all this already in my post. Like I said, refute it line by line, verse by verse.
As for your last claim, the punishment of sickness & death is because people weren’t discerning the body which, in context, was the congregation. They were eating all the food and drinking all the wine leaving their fellow brethren without any. That was how they were abusing the Supper.
It was the body of believers that became Jesus’ body by partaking of the one bread, as Paul said:
Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread.
— 1 Corinthians 10:17
You believe the Church is the body of Christ on earth, yes?
@lordpandaxx@Xtopher_Uzo Ignatius is the only one who wrote about real presence and there is no direct tie to John as a disciple 🤷🏾♂️ He wasn’t identified as a disciple of John until the late 4th century.
@Soupy_@patristicpill You’re misrepresenting my point, not following my logic and I suspect you know that. To your question, I already answered it but did you answer mine?
https://t.co/9ohqfRF4pY
No but that’s an apples to oranges comparison.
If we were to ask the question: What did Jesus teach? Scripture gives the answer.
If we ask: How was the church founded? Scripture gives the answer.
If we ask: What is the good news? Scripture gives the answer.
And if we ask: What must I do to be saved? Scripture again gives the answer.
@Soupy_@patristicpill Therefore?
Jesus didn’t give anyone excuses. He said:
“O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?”
— Luke 24:25-26