A revealing exchange:
Joel Rubin, Democratic Party adviser: "First of all, don't conflate Israel and American Jews... That is a conflation that is illiberal."
Me: "On the [Israel is an] ally point. Well, that's the whole point. That's why people want to have a debate in the party.
Rubin: "Right, so kick out the Jews."
Me: "Joel, do you realize what you've just done there? People can rewind this on YouTube. You said a moment to me, 'Do not conflate Israel with American Jews.' I said, 'Let's not ally with Israel.' And you said, 'Kick out the Jews.' So everyone has just seen... you just conflated them."
Rubin: "No, no, no. I have not."
Me: "You did. Everyone can just rewind. The beauty of YouTube is, Joel, people can rewind it. I said 'Israel should not be an ally of America,' and you said, 'So kick out the Jews.' Those were your words."