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@nanalilymoon Okay, You Racist

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@nanalilymoon Reproducing aesthetic tendencies through an outsider's biased lens is also discrimination, racist.

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@nanalilymoon A country where racism is as natural as breathing — so you genuinely couldn't understand. You couldn't accept what an Asian person was saying, so you literally rewrote my words into what you wanted to hear.

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@nanalilymoon 네가 좋아 하는 번호 매기기를 해줄게
1. OP는 차별적인 발언을 했다.
2. 하지 말아라
그리고 동북아시아의 컬러리즘, 계급주의와 미적 지향에 대해 과도한 해석을 하는데
그건 너의 망상 속에만 존재하는 어떤 아시아야. 실재가 아니고.
다른 문화와 맥락에 대해 함부로 재단하지마.

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@nanalilymoon 이에 따라 타인종의 특성을 규정하고 평가하는것은 차별적인 행동이다.
이게 그렇게 어렵나?
아님 본인은 유럽출신이니 누구든 가르칠수있다고 생각하는건가?

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@nanalilymoon Then, Go Brooklyn and say it.
The natural hair movement worked because it came from within Black people affirming their own hair, not outsiders defining it. An outsider deciding which hair is "real" would be discrimination, not the movement.
Don't Mock, Learn how to READ.

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@nanalilymoon People aren't reacting because they didn't call us white, or because we think we're white. It's the assumption underneath that there's one "real" way an Asian is supposed to look.

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@nanalilymoon I don't want to be toxic, but if that line really sounds like a compliment, go tell a Black person: "your curls are so beautiful, why does everyone straighten their hair? I love your hair."

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@nanalilymoon Asia is huge. Don't judge it by your stereotype.

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@nanalilymoon And yes — Korea, China, Japan really do sit next to Russia. Seoul to Vladivostok is about the same as Milan to Paris. The nearest SEA-like island climate is Okinawa — twice that distance from Seoul. Same latitude as Florence, but far colder, because of the Siberian high.

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@nanalilymoon And we tan fine — a fair base tone and tanning aren't a contradiction.
You know Europeans didn't even count the Irish or Southern Europeans as "white"? That line was never about biology. Just power drawing borders. So don't measure another race by a standard you made up yourself.

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@nanalilymoon Europe had constant mixing of many groups; Northeast Asia had far less of that, so traits cluster on a bell curve extremes are rare, the cold-adapted lighter tone in the middle. Lighter than Southern Europeans, darker than Northern.

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中国人、日本人、韩国人是不是黄种人？

这个话题辩论起来是真的让人感到无力。
因为你要是否定东亚人是黄种人，会迎来正反方的双重反击。

一些同为东亚人的反对意见会认为，你这是在自卑，你这是在脱亚入欧，你应该为你自己的黄皮肤而感到骄傲。

一些欧洲人会认为，你这是种族自恨，你这是谄媚的想要成为西方人。

包括一些混血，例如拉丁美洲人，他们就会这样觉得，他们认为你的肤色是你的骄傲。

但问题是，中国自古以来就是以白为美的。
我们的成语中有肤如凝脂，皓如凝雪。我们说一个男的长得帅，叫做面如敷粉。

2000 年前的《诗经》中就有大量的语句去描写那些皮肤白皙的美人。
而大航海时代开启之后，中国人是怎么描绘那些出现在中国的欧洲人呢？例如荷兰人、葡萄牙人、西班牙人。
我们统称为是红毛夷，番鬼。
古代的中国人压根就没有觉得欧洲人是白人，我们觉得他们是红的。
现在生活条件好了，所以看不出来欧洲人是红人。但那个时代，欧洲人在大海上航行一年到达亚洲，他们的皮肤被太阳晒得通红，所以我们会认为他们是红人。所以我们称他们为红毛夷。

古代的中国人也压根不可能会称呼自己为黄种人。
是要到 1775 年。布鲁门巴赫提出了五大人种，也就是为后世所熟知的高加索人、蒙古人、马来人。埃塞俄比亚人、美洲人。
也就是白种人、黄种人、黑种人。棕种人、红种人。

所谓的黄种人，压根就不是客观事实，它是一种理念。
即从 1775 年开始，欧洲人自认为自己是白种人，他们又称呼亚洲人是黄种人。

这个历史不过 200 年。
怎么就成为了一个客观事实呢？

现在称呼亚洲人为黄种人，不过是一种对于词语的掠夺。我们压根就不是黄种人，却在欧洲人的东方主义之下，强行叫我们是黄种人。

与之类似的是一些地缘政治词汇。
例如说东方、西方。
这个东方和西方是怎么来的呢？自古以来，中国可不认为自己是东方，中国认为自己是中央之国。

现在的东方和西方来源于欧洲的划分，他们认为基督教世界以东的就是东方。
例如说土耳其所在的安纳托利亚高原就是近东。
阿拉伯半岛就是中东。
中国、日本、韩国就属于远东。

这个和科学压根没有关系，这纯粹的是一套世界观、一套理念。
这就像什么呢？我们都必须要承认氧气的存在，无论它是哪一个国家发明的，你压根否定不了氧气。

但是这一套世界观，我们为什么要承认呢？我们又为什么要承认我们是东方？
在这一套世界观下，世界的中心是在欧洲，我们不过是远东，是在这个世界的偏僻一角。

将我们称之为远东，这一套其实还可以捏着鼻子承认。
但是将我们定义为黄种人，而非白人，这就有些无法忍受了。

因为总是会有人去嘲讽你。
虽然说主要针对的是韩国人。
就会有欧洲人认为东亚人化妆是为了模仿白人，是一种对于白人的狂热追捧。
这种想法是完全错误的，因为在所谓的人种学出来之前，我们就已经喜欢白色了。

我们也压根不认为你们西方人是白人，对我们来说，你们是红毛夷，你们是红色的。

所以我坚定地反对所谓的亚洲人是黄种人的说法。
这压根就不科学，这纯粹是欧洲的东方主义。