@OliviaA91556356@HappyyChaoss@Mrcole277 What hypotheticals?? It never "guesses" where the saying came from. Sure, later they build off for a different conversation.
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Is that better? Fucking people man...
@NachoFz1991@ThirteenNMD@HappyyChaoss@Mrcole277 D) You people are illiterate. As I've never said "it never happens", just has nothing to do with the origins of the saying.
E) Other events of the saying not being honored still has nothing to do with it's origin.
F) Not honoring the slogan isn't taking advantage of anyone.
@NachoFz1991@ThirteenNMD@HappyyChaoss@Mrcole277 A) Its a saying not a rule.
JFC
B) The saying came from nothing denoting anything but self sacrifice.
C) The "rule" was, as noted, every man for himself. Which is not taking advantage of anyone.
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused You're citing two sites using two different groupings.
You're saying reporting in the US is so stigmatized it cant be trusted?
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused I can only assume based on a quick read that intertwining outdated psychology, crude methodology and admitted slant, that maybe it was more hunch affirming than impartial truth seeking.
If 30% of college men are sex criminals why would anyone ever go there....
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused Well several things. I never denied or minimized male urges. I don't see how 20-30% of men are sexual criminals. That is insane. All crime altogether is about 6.5m cases in 2025.
I'm not super well versed but there is a lot of outdated material there, some 60 years old.
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused Like I said, the questions aren't shown and admitted to being misleading. For all I know the question is "If you and a girl have a beer, would you still have sex" and be ticked for sexual violence.
And I admitted I misinterperted one of the sample sizes.
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused Mmm I dont know. The cdc joins attempted rape with that figure, whereas the Finnish one doesnt. Not to mention the Finnish site seems more of a blog.
I never said that it didn't occur because it was reported. I'm losing patience with your constant bad faith bullshit.
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused Yeah, I didn't read the screenshots. I meant to but was busy and forgot. Looking at it now though. The sample sizes are tiny, one being 14 people. The questions aren't shown. Are based off them answering misleading questions. They even say they left out the criminal implication..
@lizisamused Mugging involves an open threat of force.... someone demanding or asking relentlessly for money and you giving it to them is not mugging....
Thoughts like this demean rape and SA.
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused When have I ever said too drunk wasnt a thing??? I said the term was too fucking vague. What the actual fuck man. Having 1 beer and fucking a dude you wouldnt have fucked otherwise is objectively not too drunk, but can count as rape based off this criteria.
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused Yes men have denied that part of male psyche since time began. Not like rape laws and extreme violent punishments have been around for 1000s of years. The pushback came around when definitions changed, what can be used to destroy a life and the result of any pushback being sexist
@EuhFuh@soupcanarchist@lizisamused Its used as a "gotcha" ( if that more so a counterpoint) to feminist claiming men commit 99% of all rapes. Then it gets dimished as MTP isn't rape so they arent wrong.