@Conigman@DrFrankTurek Morality can be objective without needing a religion telling you exactly what that morality is. The existence of objective morality and the means of knowing what it is are 2 different things. But you can conclude things like murder to be wrong by using reason
@pkh7276_pkh@archie_lochie If everything needs a creator why doesn’t God need a creator. Why does ‘something doesn’t appear out of nothing’ not apply to God. There could be one thing which has always existed without it necessarily being a personal being called God.