@Jepuzfred@HLlingbo@TakedownTERFS Is boiling water not matter manipulation? Extremely weak point to make. All technology is playing god because god only exists where nature does but science doesn’t.
@redfollowsred@SemniIstiqlal@JustGemini79@0Tamahawk3@JesusFish00@redfoIIowsred I’m distinguishing by the set of conditions you gave “gestation, producing eggs, or producing sperm” not reducing it to specific traits. I ask for the universal shared experience that all males and females experience, for example not all women get periods but they would be women
@redfollowsred@JesusFish00@0Tamahawk3@JustGemini79@SemniIstiqlal@redfoIIowsred It is a literal condition also called Ovotesticular syndrome where you’re born with both ovarian and testicular tissue. Yes being a true hermaphrodite (fully formed male and female tissue) is impossible but that’s not what we’re talking about. Both reproductive systems are there
@redfollowsred@SemniIstiqlal@JustGemini79@0Tamahawk3@JesusFish00@redfoIIowsred Can you distinguish a broken hammer from a drill? Let me give an example. Say you have a hand crank drill and a hammer and take the shafts from both instruments. If they are physically identical your analogy concludes youd still be able to distinguish them, a contradiction right?
@redfollowsred@JesusFish00@0Tamahawk3@JustGemini79@SemniIstiqlal@redfoIIowsred There is no given trait, it is just boiling down to reproductive roles which I ask you to define the reproductive role of bees? It sounds silly right but their reproductive role is different, they don’t produce nor gestate eggs making distinguishing them as female purely opinion