Fly0411

All for karina｜私人号（自用）
爱你但说不出口

[sytmr ꨄ︎ @sammybluu411]

Okay, let's do this, shall we. I will do it nice and clean so hopefully yall will have enough IQ to process the whole thing. Doing this because yall dumbfck are trying to twist the narrative and the main topic of why the whole incident is backfired ningning girly badly not just inlt side but also CN side. And somehow a lot of yall assumed we are "mad" because nn wants to protect her family, which WE DON'T.
- First of all, let's talk about your narrative "The lies came out of your own fave mouth". Before we get to the point, let's me show everyone the glimpse how C-nms (with NN's CN team helps) has been doing for couple months lately, include of spreading groundless rumors/defamations about Karina's family relationship and trying to link her and her family to anti-CN political stance (pic 1+2). Everyone and their mamas already knew Karina's father is a former marine which she mentioned multi times before the show that you use for your post honey. FYI, 99% of Kr men have to go through military service once in their lifetime because South Korea has a Mandatory Military Service System. Whether a kr family has a military background or not, its unnecessary to debate. This is THE TRUE, what c-nms and nn's cn team has been spreading about Karina's father and her family political stance is THE LIES.
- As some of you already known or may not know, the wb post that nn replied and used for her "call out" contained Karina's family doxxed WHICH HAD BEEN DONE BY NN's CN FANS. Karina had NEVER EVER mentioned her family members private info, even her older sister dog's name, because she considers it as a part of her family that she always wants to protect. So which one of these came from my fav mouth??
Oh, btw, nn's mother pic was no need to be doxxed as nms was crying about. nn herself joined a lot of kid talent shows back in cn since she was a kid, her family including her mother already being public on tv show interviews, its just a matter of time for them to dig it up, easily.
NOW FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, I'm gonna explain why Karina's fans furious about this incident. The timeline of what had happened (pic 3).
If you use wb or if you not, yes, fanwars happen everyday in nasty way. Karina and nn's cn fans have been fought for months now. So, the hidden rule on CN side is, as a celeb/idol, you shouldn't and not allowed to involve yourself in fanwar.
The thing happened ytd was NN tried to protect her family by replying under an anti's post and tagged them publicly on her official wb acc. The post has a pic that included screenshots of Karina being sexualized, having her family doxxed. The OP had simply copy-pasted the exact insults originally directed at Karina and replaced her name with ningning. Instead of being smart and beloved maknae by choosing better way to avoid the damage could be done to her groupmate, she chose to throw Karina under the bus, open up a gate for her fans and Karina's antis to jump in and drag her sister😔.
The funny part is she was active on wb since forever, lurking on that app years after years yet, she knew and aware of what her CN fans (supporting by her CN's team) has been doing for months to her so called SISTER yet in the statement that she put up on her wb, she still defending her CN's fans by saying them has been verbal attacks (she even mentioned her fans before her family, the priority is there ig). This is actually the first time i've seen an idol sided and defended their CN akgaes who were harassing and trying to make her teammate get canceled in her homeland for years (pic 4 +5).
Things got people attention fast and her cn's team start buying hotsearchs on wb left and right. They really think they can get pity from public and cnetz but sadly nn's action which throw Karina under the bus and damage her teammate image by insert herself in fanwar is the thing cnetz hate the most so its backfired her and her cn team. Did you know kpop cn fans in general are start questioning aespa's relationship, their bond and support the disbandment because of this lmao.
On the other hand, Karina Bar's post that tagged SM and aespa's account asking them take responsibility and protect Karina and her family due to the huge amount of defamations for months starting blowing up, reached 100k likes on wb in just couple hours. They made SM's official wb acc have to come out with an announcement used vague words, seemingly intended to de-escalate the situation caused by Karina's CN fans after everything not going in the direction that they want (pic 6)
There are way more teas left but i wanna keep it for myself first, maybe i will share more if these stupid nms piss me off later. BYEEEEE

[cxm @Cxm_0411]

She stayed silent while Karina endured years of harassment and abuse. But the moment Karina’s fans fought back, she spoke up—while ignoring everything her own fandom had done.

[Fly0411 @GY04111]

是的，第一张图片就是宁艺卓粉丝造谣和辱骂柳智敏及其家人，然而宁艺卓眼盲心瞎纵容自己粉丝霸凌造谣柳智敏，这才是大家逆反的关键，无论宁艺卓粉丝怎么狡辩都是宁艺卓粉丝先撩者贱。

[KARINA Charts @karinachartss]

Lastly, we would like to clarify why Karina's fans are upset. (The primary reaction has come from Chinese fans, although many international fans have also expressed disappointment. Until this issue was brought onto the international side.) However, it had not escalated to this extent.

1. Ningning has every right to defend herself and her mother. No one is criticizing her for doing so. The concern stems from the wording of her post, specifically the phrase "...been subjecting my FANS and family to verbal abuse." Many fans interpreted this as defending or speaking on behalf of her fanbase as a whole. Given that some of those fans have, for years, spread body-shaming, sexualized insults, malicious rumors, and attacks targeting Karina and her family, this wording has understandably disappointed people.

2. One of the Weibo posts Ningning replied to included screenshots of posts in which Karina was body-shamed, sexualized, and her family's personal information was targeted. The original poster had reproduced those posts to illustrate the abuse Karina had been subjected to. As a result, some fans found Ningning's decision to reply to that post disappointing because of the context surrounding it, not simply because she chose to defend herself.

To be clear, this is not about denying Ningning the right to speak up for herself or her family. Rather, it is about why some fans reacted negatively to the specific wording of her statement and the context of the posts she responded to. Understanding that context is essential to understanding why this situation has become so controversial.

Rather than putting Karina's Chinese and international fans in a negative light or escalate this situation even further, we urge everyone to remember that SM Entertainment has already taken legal action against malicious posts and harassment. Fanwars often escalate to the point where people on both sides engage in unacceptable behavior. While no harassment should ever be excused, it is neither fair nor constructive to place the entire responsibility on only one side while overlooking the actions of the other. There is no benefit in prolonging fanwars or creating more conflict.

Please stop bringing unnecessary hostility to both Twitter and Weibo. Spreading misinformation and provoking other fandoms only harms everyone involved. It's time to let this end instead of making the situation worse. @NingNing_Bar.

[KARINA Charts @karinachartss]

Lastly, we would like to clarify why Karina's fans are upset. (The primary reaction has come from Chinese fans, although many international fans have also expressed disappointment. Until this issue was brought onto the international side.) However, it had not escalated to this extent.

1. Ningning has every right to defend herself and her mother. No one is criticizing her for doing so. The concern stems from the wording of her post, specifically the phrase "...been subjecting my FANS and family to verbal abuse." Many fans interpreted this as defending or speaking on behalf of her fanbase as a whole. Given that some of those fans have, for years, spread body-shaming, sexualized insults, malicious rumors, and attacks targeting Karina and her family, this wording has understandably disappointed people.

2. One of the Weibo posts Ningning replied to included screenshots of posts in which Karina was body-shamed, sexualized, and her family's personal information was targeted. The original poster had reproduced those posts to illustrate the abuse Karina had been subjected to. As a result, some fans found Ningning's decision to reply to that post disappointing because of the context surrounding it, not simply because she chose to defend herself.

To be clear, this is not about denying Ningning the right to speak up for herself or her family. Rather, it is about why some fans reacted negatively to the specific wording of her statement and the context of the posts she responded to. Understanding that context is essential to understanding why this situation has become so controversial.

Rather than putting Karina's Chinese and international fans in a negative light or escalate this situation even further, we urge everyone to remember that SM Entertainment has already taken legal action against malicious posts and harassment. Fanwars often escalate to the point where people on both sides engage in unacceptable behavior. While no harassment should ever be excused, it is neither fair nor constructive to place the entire responsibility on only one side while overlooking the actions of the other. There is no benefit in prolonging fanwars or creating more conflict.

Please stop bringing unnecessary hostility to both Twitter and Weibo. Spreading misinformation and provoking other fandoms only harms everyone involved. It's time to let this end instead of making the situation worse. @NingNing_Bar.

[Fly0411 @GY04111]

你想移花接木让别人继续攻击骂公还又怎样？宁艺卓粉丝开盒柳智敏家人和造谣她家人的时候不恶毒？卖惨的报应就是宁艺卓的左眼也爆

[CHINA NINGNING Bar @NingNing_Bar]

Haters use pictures they’ve deliberately manipulated. They’ve also made up lies about Ningning’s family elsewhere. We’re sharing this to show how vicious they are. So what if the original picture used by the person Ningning responded to is different? That doesn’t change anything.

[KARINA GLOBAL UNION @KRNGlobalUnion]

Hi @NingNing_Bar , it has come to our attention that the image has been edited to include the text stating, “she has failed in teaching…”. This text was not present in the original post.

While we do not support any actions that could cause harm or target anyone’s family, we also kindly ask that edited images not be circulated in ways that alter the original content or context. Doing so may mislead others, contribute to the spread of misinformation, and unintentionally cause harm to innocent parties.

We appreciate your understanding and cooperation. Thank you.

[KARINA Charts @karinachartss]

Hi @NingNing_Bar. We would like to clarify several points, as important context has been omitted and inaccurate information has been circulated.

First, the post Ningning replied to did not contain the statement, "She has failed in teaching her daughter..." The image currently being shared with that caption is not from the original Weibo post. It is an edited version that appeared later. Therefore, presenting it as if it were part of the original post is factually incorrect and misrepresents what Ningning actually replied to.

Second, the original Weibo post contained screenshots documenting the abuse Karina had been subjected to, including body-shaming, sexualization, and rumors involving her family. So please do not crop that part out, it is important to accurately represent the content of the original post instead of replacing it with edited material.

We also want to clarify that the family photos used in the original screenshots were not photoshopped or fabricated. They were screenshots taken from a Chinese television program. The only alteration made on our side was censoring the individuals' faces out of respect for their privacy. Their faces were blurred solely to avoid exposing family members any further, not to manipulate the evidence.

We do not support harassment, doxxing, or attacks against any artist or their family. That principle applies equally to everyone. However, discussions should be based on complete and authentic evidence. Cropping out key context or substituting original screenshots with edited ones only creates confusion and makes it harder for people to understand what actually happened.

If the objective is to inform the public rather than shape a narrative, then the full, original screenshots should be presented. Context matters, and so does the accuracy of the evidence being shared.

[Fly0411 @GY04111]

NingNing粉丝眼盲心瞎粉丝正主

[lov | kinda ia @loveyusvt]

kerjaan fans lu dari awal debut cuma ngehate karina, doxxing keluarganya, sampe smear campaign dan lu cuma diem aja, sekarang sok-sok an tersakiti dan malah ngebelain kelakuan akgae lu, aduh njingg ngga pernah gw nemu org semuka dua ini🤣

[aespa @aespa_official]

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[yusra @JENRINAES]

anyway, i just hope loveyus, yoos and kalfs can finally come together and get organized. instead of letting all this frustration consume us, i hope we can turn this all into overwhelming support for karina's upcoming waterbomb performance and her new solo song in august.

[Fly0411 @GY04111]

@ChinaKarinaBar @NingNing_Bar 宁粉真是最丧心病狂的粉丝群体，为了嫁祸给别人，连给自己正主的老母p图都干的出来

[ChinaKarinaBar @ChinaKarinaBar]

照片是综艺截图 你们自己粉丝也在发

[ChinaKarinaBar @ChinaKarinaBar]

特意把头像最末端用文字挡住就是为了移花接木给自己爱豆的母亲照片加上那种文字泼脏水吗😂

[Fly0411 @GY04111]

The fans of Love 4 are simply the craziest bunch. They are willing to Photoshop their favorite star's mother to frame Yoos

[셰르🪽🍭 @bluubewy]

SM kalau urusan treat karina jelek, tapi nama karina dipake buat artikel perusahaan, dipake buat naikin nama agensi. najis banget najis. minimal ditreat anak emas kek. boro boro anak emas deng. bare minimum aja jarang

[🩵 @bluuist]

posting it in the speed of a lightning without double-checking just for some engagements and "my fav has that attitude" celebratory bullshits while at the same time sacrificing other member's family getting doxxed. you lot are taking the "let others shine" too seriously ig

[祈祷香菜和蚊子从地球消失 @lmrisFREE]

Ningning’s fans insulted Karina’s family and even fabricated sexually explicit rumors about Karina and her father, yet Ningning chose to ignore it. That’s incredibly ironic.