🦍 Oilpatch Mike 🦍

Sometimes snarky, often humorous, always based, never woke, seldom wrong, occasionally inappropriate... Husband, Father, Grandfather... #AlbertaIndependence

[🦍 Oilpatch Mike 🦍 @GetTheFoxOut]

I will end with one thing and then leave you be. You've obviously given the question much thought.

For me, it boils down to this...

None of us will ever have things exactly as we wish but I'd rather be one voice in 5 million than be half a voice that is ignored, in a sea of 45 million.

Thank you for the thoughtful conversation and good night.

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@travis09640745 You can still vote... Hell... some Liberals vote from the grave 😉

[🦍 Oilpatch Mike 🦍 @GetTheFoxOut]

Conversation with a federalist this morning:

Them:
"Don't you seppies know that federalists make up 70% of Alberta's population?"

Reply:
"No, we don't know... and unless you are psychic, neither do you.

October 19 will let us all know exactly where we stand at the moment.

But here's something to think about... Do you really think that, if Option #2 gets less votes that Option #1, we will all just stop, put our elbows up and be content to participate in Canada's suicide pact and sacrifice our descendants' future on your Alter?

Should your side prevail on October 19th, you will have a lot of work to do and you will have to ensure that many substantial and effective changes are made to address the issues we raise before we change our minds...

Fighting for the wellbeing and freedom of your children is much more motivating than you seem to realize... and until you can prove to us that we don't need to, we aren't going to just stop.

We need win once... You need to do so every time."

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@RealCanadia I definitely didn't graduate from the school you went to... I was on the long bus.

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@WitterQuicks There's another error you missed... if you can find it, I'll give you another cookie 🍪 and the special "grammar patch" for your uniform... you've got one hour, Hero... tick tock.

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@JustFedUpOnX Keep making lattes and misspelling names, pal... leave the rest to the adults.

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@RealCanadia Your attempt at... whatever that is... has failed.

Try again, champ... maybe once you're sober.

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@Adicolig Either you are deliberately obfuscating what was said or you have the intellectual capacity to hide your own easter eggs and differentiate glass by taste. Keep trying!

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@perservative223 Your opinion would be considered if it weren't so wholeheartedly worthless and inconsequential Mr. Bot 🤖

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@mjtheod @cgy_guy The Reform Party was my last hope... Harper "fooled us twice" (intentionally or not).

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@WitterQuicks Sure, Sparky... Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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@RADAR_DJF Get some new material... this has gotten boring 🥱

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@travis09640745 It's too important to concede defeat... the future needs this.

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I'll try to respond to all of your comments here.

Fair enough that you don't like the "leadership" but, really, there is no "leader". I don't follow blindly any of them nor do the majority of us... in fact, I've been advocating independence for four decades now. Leaders have come and gone. I'm doing this for my reasons alone (my descendants mainly). I welcome them pushing in the same direction I am but, other than that, they are just horsepower to reach a goal. Should we be successful and become independent, we (you and I and all Alberta) will decide who will be the face of the country at that time... my hope is that the constitution will be formulated so that the "person at the top" is merely a representative of the peoples' wishes, not a "leader" who's will we must follow until the next election. By necessity, there would be an interim government with limited powers. What its makeup is also not a settled question... but there is plenty of time to settle it.

There are a variety of thoughts of what a constitution would look like as well and it will take a true, open and widespread dialogue to settle on its final form... a form that will need majority approval to become law (a widely agreed upon concept)... We, collectively, must approve it

In order for me to wish to remain in Canada, some things (if not most) must be fixed. I sense you'd agree on the need for fair representation for all provinces and guaranteed rights (unlike how it is now) as well as others. How do we fix them?

I've watched Alberta and other regions be ignored, overruled and dictated to, for the benefit of those regions with true political power, all of my life... regardless of who is in power in Ottawa. Harper being the prime example... even had he wanted to (and that is not obvious) he couldn't due to the very anatomy of Canada's political system.

I've watched well intentioned people with massive support try to change the system from within (i.e. Reform Party, equalization referendum etc.) and concluded that the system cannot be changed... it is set up like a casino: The House always wins... the only way NOT to lose is to NOT play their games. That is the only vector that will achieve the change I (and maybe you) seek.

As it stands, those that benefit massively from the system are also those whose consent we need to change it... "the deck is stacked" (maintaining the casino analogy).

You and I are not so different... it may only boil down to our levels of patience.

I'd like your take on what I've replied.

Also, I'm doing this all in one shot from memory, so if I didn't address something adequately (or missed it entirely) please let me know.

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@goodbar_ca Sounds like a rhetorical question.

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@happybaldguy1 @truthbot7000 Done and done

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Lol... I was wondering when the one spelling error would be spotted... good on you, Sparky. Here's a cookie 🍪

Good on you, as well, to be fighting for your children like I am... The only difference between you and I is, I'm fighting for their freedom from Ottawa and you are fighting for the opposite.

And, not that it's any of your business nor is it relevant but, I have lived in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Quebec and spent lots of time in all 10 provinces and 2 of the 3 territories.

I'm no dummy (if that wasn't obvious) and I don't believe you are either, you are merely wrong... happens to the best of us sometimes. It's unfortunate that, this time, it is about something so important. I'm sorry that you are such a poor judge of intelligence but that is likely something I cannot fix.

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@Zone3Garden @echipiuk We did not expect any less... even if the Liberal voters did.

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@anonfmresident @grok... is the image in the meme AI generated?

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@anonfmresident Lol... I can assure you that this is NOT an AI image... it is a still shot from a video posted by @JonFromAlberta of his interaction with "Forever Canadian" supporters during Saturday's rally at the Alberta Legislature... watch the full, unedited video here:

[Jon Alberta Patriot @JonFromAlberta]

What would Canada have to do before you finally said: enough?

This is my full conversation with a group of “Forever Canadians” at the Alberta independence rally outside the Alberta Legislature on August 29.

Earlier I posted some of the most heated moments from this exchange. This is the complete conversation, and I think the most important part is actually a much deeper question:

Is there a line that Canada could cross that would make you stop supporting it?

One woman accused me of being a “traitor” who had turned against my homeland. So I tried to explain why.

You can genuinely love something and still reach a point where you can no longer support it. I use the deliberately extreme example of discovering that your spouse was a serial killer. You might love that person, but eventually some actions cross a line that love cannot excuse.

That is how I feel about Canada.

One of my biggest concerns is freedom of expression. Canada’s Charter protects freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, but those freedoms are subject to limits that governments can attempt to justify under Section 1. Canada also has newly introduced criminal hate-speech laws (bill C9).

That has crossed a line.

So I turned the question around on myself: what could Canada do that might convince me to become a federalist again?

A constitutional guarantee of inalienable free-speech protections would go a long way. If Canadians had rights that governments could not easily limit when political circumstances changed, I would seriously reconsider my position.

And I also explain something independence supporters sometimes fail to emphasize:

There are still things I love about Canada.

One example is our safety culture and the value we place on protecting workers. Having worked and travelled to places where those standards are bad, I know that Canada has built many institutions worth preserving.

Alberta independence does not require pretending everything Canada created was bad.

My argument is that lines have been crossed and because of that I have given up on Canada. The nation is falling apart and is on a path to dystopia.

Watch the entire conversation and answer the question for yourself:

Is there anything Canada could do that would make you give up on it?

And if you support Alberta independence, what could Canada realistically offer that might convince you to stay?

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@truthbot7000 I'll refrain from blocking you immediately to give you the opportunity to clarify what exactly, you believe, makes me "sound fucking retarded"... Frankly, it is your response that elicits such a "vibe"... convince me otherwise.