@mooncat_is@antoniopisante@velvetere Imagine people at anthropic dismissing Claude outputs out of hand as ai slop AND thinking this is good to tell people publicly on x.
@maddofox@mooncat_is@velvetere Yea, if this is the type of “critical thinker” anthropic is hiring, I am no longer confused as to why Claude is so bad now. Wow.
What’s your point?
Do you know how to engage with the relevant parts of the hypothetical? You don’t know what the cause of death is in the other one either. Maybe it’s by tearing your limbs off.
Are you trying to say what button you would press depends on HOW you would die? That’s an interesting take that literally no one is asking because it’s not important to the thought experiment.
I said, pretend that rabies is as painful or not as whatever the other one is. You’re trying to be smart here but completely missing the point.
You’re wondering about irrelevant details.
Picture the same room as the buttons. One is “skip rabies” one is “get rabies”.
Assume getting rabies is completely painless, it’s simultaneous, etc. make it as close or exact to the game as you’d like.
None of that matters for the point of the experiment.
@EUhobgoblin@jakeolenick Yes but the blue line is risky and depends on the people behind you if you live or die. The red line doesn’t have that problem. This is easy shit my man.
So you agree, in a sequential game the only danger happens when the first person presses blue, and not the other way around. And that you are just predicting other people behind you may accidentally put themselves in danger where there currently isn’t any.
I’m glad you actually agree with my original point 🙌
No it doesn’t. And sorry, you already tried to make the other point, that the “first blues” would have been just as safe in my original framing- which was purely wrong.
Sorry you can’t back out of it now.
But curious, would you say Im actually right if the game was run sequentially? And that nobody is at risk until the first blue was pressed? Or are you just using “timing” as a way to not look as dumb in hindsight.
In other words- if game is sequential, is my original point correct or not?
If not, why did you start fighting about timing?
It’s to DUMB IT DOWN for people like you. Red picks introduce no risk. Blue is what introduced the risk. Breaking it down sequentially is how it’s obvious to see it.
That’s why you didn’t respond “oh shit you’re right” and instead deflected to timing, when I pointed out how your comment is exactly wrong.
Why did you originally say “you could say the same about blue”, if your actual point was just gonna say “timing” later? Because you thought you had me there.
@EUhobgoblin@jakeolenick Everyone who picked blue is at risk. Because a string of red voters could come along behind them.
Whereas that CANT happen if they all picked red originally. Not complicated. Nice try.