@AlfonsoHegao@magozone23 Yes, that analogy would be valid in some cases. But your argument is invalid here, because no one is walking into the author's house or office to complain. Most people are simply saying online that they didn't like a certain aspect of the manga.
@magozone23 If your only defense is 'look at the numbers' and mocking me for not having supporters, then you don't actually have a counter-argument. You're just appealing to the crowd instead of addressing the actual point.
@magozone23 The fact that few or no people agreed with me in that moment doesn't automatically prove I'm wrong. It only proves that in that specific group, most people thought differently, which is common in any debate.
@magozone23 Truth and quality of an argument aren't decided by how many strangers agree with you in a random crowd. History is full of ideas that were unpopular at first but turned out to be right. Majority opinion =/= objective correctness.
@mhglyn@shumi20220811@oddinx@magozone23 A reader or viewer has every right to say 'this aspect doesn’t convince me' or 'this part is poorly executed,' just like a customer can say the food is too salty without being a chef.
@mhglyn@shumi20220811@oddinx@magozone23 No, you don’t need to have created a work before you’re allowed to critique it. Understanding the effort behind creation is nice, but it’s not a requirement to point out when something doesn’t work.
@kure362@shumi20220811@oddinx@magozone23 This is not a question of 'watch or not watch'. This is about someone who just said that they didn't like a certain aspect of something, nothing else. No one is saying they dislike the work completely or that they want to force that change. Learn to read.
@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 Also, the people who are criticizing that aspect of certain mangas are not trying to force that manga to change. That’s different
@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 "A true otaku would try to resolve that dissatisfaction or desire by making the dish they want to eat themselves." That’s a No True Scotsman fallacy.
@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 Okay, how did you reach the conclusion that the person criticizing that aspect of some mangas isn't paying the bill? Also, that's a non sequitur, there is no relationship between being a customer and criticizing something.
@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 And you should learn that this is more like someone saying 'this dish needs more salt' than someone saying 'I don't like meat, but I'm going to criticize it anyway'. Ergo your pseudo argument is invalid.
@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 Yes, but you're ignorant if you think that people who are criticizing certain aspects of a manga are reading a genre without knowing what they are reading. Not all mangas in a specific genre have the same features as others.
@SilverGunner69@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 Also, this is more like someone who says 'this dish needs more salt' than someone who says 'I don't like meat, but I'm going to criticize it'. Ergo you are wrong.
@SilverGunner69@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 Ad hominem. It's not retarded, because a character doesn't need to be plain or one-dimensional to be good. Also, the guy who was criticizing never said that all mangas like that should be changed.
@TakSwd@oddinx@HazamaItsuru@magozone23 That's a false analogy. Reading and enjoying manga doesn't mean you have to agree with or like every single aspect of it. People consume all kinds of media while still criticizing parts they disagree with. This has nothing to do with a vegan storming a steakhouse.