TurtleBack Mountain in a town called, Truth or Consequences New Mexico..
It's a beautiful place that used to be a sacred place, now the healing has been turned into a commodity..
Regardless, the energies here sure do affect you . +-
@SculptorRett@HabCorpLinguist Just because I'm using grok to consolidate my thoughts doesn't mean the content I shared is wrong . In fact it's the truth.
My inner knowing was guided by the spirit to tell you âïž
Yes, Iâm using @grok to help consolidate my thoughts and structure the response clearly. I query it with my own knowledge and perspective â nothing wrong with using a tool to organize ideas in a fast-moving thread.
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The surface similarity to âlook within, you are the Buddhaâ is understandable, but Christâs teaching is anchored directly in Him as the Way, not left to open personal interpretation.
On rituals and âborn of water and the Spiritâ (John 3:5): Jesus immediately clarifies the meaning in the next verse:
âFlesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spiritâ (John 3:6).
This is not primarily about an external water ritual magically saving someone. In the metaphysical sense rooted in scripture:
Water represents the cleansing of the emotional and mental nature â washing away old thought patterns, carnal desires, and the ânatural manâ (see Ezekiel 36:25 â âI will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be cleanâ).
Spirit represents the awakening of higher divine consciousness and the Fruit of the Spirit growing within.
Together, this is metanoia â a complete inner shift of consciousness. It perfectly aligns with Christâs core teachings:âThe Kingdom of God is within youâ (Luke 17:21)
âBlessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see Godâ (Matthew 5:8)
Evil begins in the heart/mind (Matthew 15:18-19)
Guard your heart, for everything flows from it (Proverbs 4:23)
The fruit grows by itself from within (Mark 4:28)
Christ participated in Jewish forms of His day (as one born under the law), but He consistently taught that true salvation is inner first â not produced by external acts.
Any system that makes rituals, ordinances, covenants, or worthiness checklists necessary gates for salvation is externalizing what Christ internalized.
This is also why the LDS shift of Luke 17:21 from âwithin youâ to âamong youâ (or pointing to the Church) is so significant â it severs the direct inner meaning and redirects it outward to an institution.
The core problem remains the same: false doctrine and external systems (LDS or otherwise) keep people trapped in carnality instead of leading them to the inner transformation that brings heaven to Earth right now.
Thatâs what the 10 points were highlighting
đ€ The comparison to âlook within, you are the Buddhaâ is understandable on the surface, but the two are fundamentally different in source and guidance. Both point to inner realization, yes â but one is anchored directly in the words and authority of Christ. The other is left open to personal interpretation without that anchor. Christâs teaching is clear: the Kingdom is a present inner reality available through Him.
And this is exactly why the LDS change to Luke 17:21 stands out so sharply. The standard text says âThe Kingdom of God is within you.â The Joseph Smith Translation and common LDS teaching shift it to âamong youâ or âhas already come unto you,â pointing to Jesusâ physical presence or the organized Church instead. That single word change severs the direct inner meaning Christ spoke and redirects it outward to an institution.
Thatâs a profound alteration.
On rituals: Iâm not sure which specific ones youâre referring to (His baptism by John? Temple visits? Passover observance?). Jesus was born under the Jewish law and participated in the cultural/religious forms of His time â much like someone today might observe certain traditions without believing they have inherent saving power.
The core issue isnât whether Christ ever participated in external forms. Itâs whether those rituals (or any new ones layered on top) are necessary for salvation or carry external power in themselves.
Christ taught the opposite: true transformation is inner first. No external act â baptism, temple ordinance, worthiness interview, or covenant, garments or underwear â can produce the purified heart, metanoia, or Kingdom consciousness He emphasized. Those flow from within and naturally manifest outwardly.
Any system that makes external rituals the gatekeeper is externalizing what Christ internalized.
Thatâs the difference Iâve been highlighting all along.
Not Buddhist at all â itâs straight from the words of Christ Himself. The Kingdom of God is within you (Luke 17:21).
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God (Matthew 5:8).
Out of the heart come evil thoughts⊠(Matthew 15:18-19).
The eye is the lamp of the body⊠(Matthew 6:22-23).
Metanoia â change your mind / shift consciousness (Matthew 3:2).
The fruit grows by itself from within (Mark 4:28). These are Jesusâ own teachings on inner transformation leading to outer manifestation. They predate Buddhismâs spread into the West by centuries and stand independent of any other tradition. Calling this âBuddhistâ is a common deflection imo .... it tries to frame the direct Way Christ taught as somehow foreign to Christianity. But the earliest Christian emphasis (Gnostics /Ethiopian Christians) was heavily focused on inner gnosis, the Kingdom within, and direct realization rather than external rituals and hierarchies.
The LDS system (and many institutional versions of Christianity) shifts these teachings outward into ordinances, covenants, worthiness, and obedience to men.
That externalization is the core problem Iâve been highlighting â not some Eastern import.
Christ wasnât teaching Buddhism. He was teaching the inner Way that brings heaven to Earth right now, through a purified consciousness. Thatâs what the 10 points were about.
Thanks for the extra context from your mission across three continents and your recent visits. Sounds like youâve had some meaningful exchanges.
On flexibility: Glad you experienced real adaptability. Personal variation happens. But the system (Preach My Gospel) still trains missionaries with structured doctrines (Restoration, Plan of Salvation, covenants, etc.) aimed at conversion and baptism. Flexibility exists within that model â not as neutral, open-ended dialogue.
Thatâs the key distinction.
Last month when four missionaries visited me over three days (two the first day, then they split them up and the same elder came back the third day), I spent the time teaching them the true inner teachings of Christ. We discussed the etymology of âJehovahâ and âGod,â how changing even one word can completely alter oneâs perspective of reality, the corrupt dogmatic churches Joseph Smith criticized, false prophets and false doctrine that keep people trapped in carnality instead of leading them to divinity. I emphasized how the LDS Church puts everything externally â powers, rituals, worthiness â when Christ taught the complete opposite: the Kingdom is within you (Luke 17:21).
I even showed them how weâre to pray as if itâs already done, not plead to an external God⊠and asked which God theyâre actually praying to, the almighty creator source of all that is, or the carnal fallen God of this Earth...
Thatâs exactly the kind of conversation the 10 points I mentioned above were meant to spark.
On the Jesuit/Neoplatonism late-night discussion: Jesuits are masters of philosophy and rhetoric. Neoplatonism has some language of inner ascent and purification, but it is ultimately still built on layered philosophical dogma and intellectual hierarchy â more occult-style emanation than the simple, direct inner Way Christ taught (pure heart seeing God, metanoia as mind-shift, guard your heart as the creative source).
It doesnât lead to the raw inner salvation and consciousness transformation Christ emphasized..
The core issue remains: Both LDS doctrine and many institutional versions of Christianity externalize what Christ internalized. Thatâs why the repulsion from devout believers isnât personal hatred â itâs theological alarm at a different gospel being presented as restoration.
False doctrine from dogmatic and false prophets all leading salvation to external forces. None of them are teaching the way of Christ. Inner salvation.
No one is questioning your sincerity or that many missionaries adapt to the Spirit in real time.However, calling my description ânot accurate and very biasedâ misses the systemic point. The old discussions were more structured (with set topics and often memorization elements, as many returned missionaries confirm). Preach My Gospel (current manual) moved away from rigid scripts toward principles â but it still provides structured lessons (especially Chapter 3), key doctrines to teach in sequence, recommended teaching methods, commitment patterns, and intensive training in the MTC focused on inviting people to baptism and covenants.Of course itâs âappropriate to present the doctrineâ â the issue is that the doctrine presented is the restored gospel with its unique claims (total apostasy, Joseph Smith, additional scriptures, temple ordinances, etc.). Thatâs exactly why the theological repulsion exists for devout Christians who see it as a different gospel (Galatians 1:8-9). Personal variations in how missionaries teach donât change the purpose of the program: conversion into the LDS system, not neutral theological exploration. We can agree that individuals vary.
The deeper disagreement remains on the inner Way of Christ (Kingdom within you, metanoia, purified consciousness producing natural fruit) versus the external path of rituals, worthiness, and institutional authority.
And what are the factual corrections of yours that you disagree with đ€·
On the missionary point: The shift away from the old rigid âdiscussionsâ to Preach My Gospel (updated again in 2023) is real. But calling it âno scripts, just guided by the Spiritâ is a common softening of reality.Missionaries are still intensively trained with structured lessons, key doctrines, recommended phrases, commitment patterns, and role-playing in the MTC and ongoing mission training. They have specific goals (baptismal invitations, teaching the Restoration, Plan of Salvation, etc.) and are expected to follow the correlated material. Itâs Spirit-guided within a clear framework designed to lead toward conversion and covenants â not open-ended theological dialogue.Thatâs not a knock on their sincerity. Itâs how the system is built: focused on bringing people into the restored gospel, ordinances, and Church authority.The deeper issue remains the same: one path emphasizes inner transformation and the Kingdom already within (Luke 17:21); the other layers external authority, rituals, and worthiness on top. Thatâs why the fundamental clash exists.
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1. On the âangry Christâ being my imagination:
Itâs not imagination â itâs Matthew 23. Jesus called the religious leaders hypocrites, blind guides, whitewashed tombs, and a brood of vipers because they taught false doctrine and âshut the kingdom of heaven in peopleâs faces.â He had zero tolerance for deception on salvation. Paul echoes this strongly (Galatians 1:8-9 â a different gospel brings a curse). Gentleness toward the broken (Centurion, woman at the well) does not equal tolerance for systems that lead souls away from the true inner Way. The parallel stands.
2. Roman Centurion & apostles example:
Yes, Christ marveled at the Centurionâs faith (an outsider) and corrected His apostles for gatekeeping. That shows openness to genuine faith. But it doesnât negate His sharp rebukes to those inside the religious system teaching error. The missionaries I described represent the latter â presenting a different gospel.
3. Your interfaith discussions & Pharisees comment:
Glad youâve had good, genuine dialogues with a Jesuit, Buddhist monk, etc. Thatâs valuable. However, LDS missionaries are explicitly trained for conversion, not open conversation. Their handbook and scripts focus on pre-planned talking points to defend LDS claims and lead to baptism â not to explore disproof or deep theological challenges. Thatâs a key reason many devout Christians feel repulsion: they see a different Jesus and different path being presented.The Pharisees did try to trap Jesus, but He still publicly corrected false teaching when souls were at stake. Open dialogue is good â when itâs truly open.
4. Faith & works (âchicken or the eggâ):
This is a common mix-up. The real issue isnât sequence â itâs what faith actually is.
True biblical faith is an inner shift of consciousness (metanoia) â a complete change of mind/heart that aligns with the divine within (the Kingdom that is already âwithin youâ â Luke 17:21). This inner transformation naturally produces the Fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22-23) as outer manifestation. Righteous works flow from this purified inner state â they donât create or maintain salvation. What youâre describing sounds closer to self-righteousness (carnal effort, rules, rituals, worthiness checklists, obedience to men). Thatâs the carnal path Christ warned against. The divine path is inner first: purify the heart/mind â outer life transforms effortlessly. The 10 points I shared are Christâs actual teachings on this. Most institutional systems (including LDS) flip it to external authority and performance.This isnât âmy faith vs your faithâ â itâs the direct inner Way Christ taught versus the external system that has been layered on top. The Kingdom is within you right now. No restoration, temple, or additional scriptures required to access it. Thatâs the profound difference.
Texas man finds a tree limb FLOATING in mid-air like itâs defying gravity. Zooms in, throws stuff at it, calls the neighbor⊠full panic mode.
Google says spider webs. Dude says âstupid crapâ and prays itâs not the Matrix.
Natureâs magic or just invisible silk doing its job? đ
My guess is itâs either a spider web or an optical illusion stemming from angle and the fact that he says it just rained.
This is all you need to know, to understand how Israel is able to blackmail US politicians. This spying can also be used to manipulate the stock markets, when they spy on the market movers as well. Everyone has a phone and they are all laced with spyware apps. đ€
Last few points continued...
8. The Fruit of the Spirit
Galatians 5:22-23 â âThe fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peaceâŠâ
True meaning: These are natural byproducts of a purified inner consciousnessânot behaviors to perform. Dwell inwardly on these states â they grow and shape outer actions and circumstances. You know someone by the fruit of their heart, not external rule-following.
LDS teaching: Evidence of righteous living and Holy Ghost through obedience, covenants, and Church activity. Used to measure worthiness.
9. True Repentance (Metanoia)
Matthew 3:2 & Acts 3:19 â âRepent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.â
True meaning: Metanoia = complete change of mind / shift in consciousness. Release old patterns + self-forgiveness â inner freedom and new outer life. No endless guilt or rituals.
LDS teaching: Sorrow for sin + confession to bishop if needed + restitution + ongoing covenant renewal and obedience for temple blessings.
10. The Abomination Deception
Hebrew toâevah (often translated âabominationâ).
True meaning: Many âabominationâ verses were ancient cultural/ritual taboos for tribal identity and separationânot timeless moral laws. Inner heart transformation transcends external purity codes.
LDS teaching: Applies as eternal moral law (especially on sexuality), tied to the plan of salvation, traditional marriage, and family centrality
These are Christâs own words on inner salvation through consciousness. The LDS system shifts nearly every one toward external authority, rituals, worthiness interviews, and obedience to menâturning an inner Kingdom into an institutional path. Thatâs why the repulsion exists: one is the carnal, self-focused system Christ warned against; the other is the direct inner Way He actually taught. đ§
1.The Kingdom is Within You
Luke 17:21 â âThe Kingdom of God is within you.â
True meaning: The Kingdom is an inner state of awakened divine consciousness, already present inside every person. Realize it inwardly â peace, love, and harmony manifest outwardly. No external institution required.
LDS teaching: Rendered as âthe kingdom of God is among you / in your midst,â pointing to Jesus or the organized Church. The Kingdom is the restored LDS institution built through baptism, priesthood authority, temple covenants, and living prophets.
2. Pure Heart = Seeing God
Matthew 5:8 â âBlessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.â
True meaning: Purify your mind and heart of negative thoughts/emotions â direct perception of God in everything. Inner clarity naturally radiates as outer love and presence.
LDS teaching: Moral cleanliness and worthiness through obedience, sacrament, and temple interviews. âSeeing Godâ is literal future reward in the celestial kingdom for the obedient.
3. Guard Your Heart
Proverbs 4:23 â âAbove all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.â
True meaning: Your inner thoughts and consciousness are the creative source of your entire life. Guarding your mind is the highest spiritual discipline â outer reality flows from it.
LDS teaching: Guard against worldly influences and doubt. Focus on external choices (media, tithing, associations) that protect covenant obedience.
4. Where Evil Actually Begins
Matthew 15:18-19 â âOut of the heart come evil thoughtsâŠâ
True meaning: All sin and suffering start in unexamined inner thought patterns. Real change must happen at the level of mind, not mere behavior control.
LDS teaching: Thoughts lead to actions; control them to avoid sin. Serious issues require bishop confession and covenant renewal.
5. The Eye is the Lamp of the Body
Matthew 6:22-23 â âThe eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of lightâŠâ
True meaning: What you focus your attention on inwardly determines whether youâre filled with light or darkness. Inner focus creates outer reality.
LDS teaching: Moral visionâavoid lust, stay single to Godâs glory through temple worthiness and missionary focus. Leads to outward blessings.
6. It Grows By Itself
Mark 4:28 â âThe earth produces by itself, first the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear.â
True meaning: Spiritual growth is natural and organic from within. Plant truth in consciousness and allow itâno forced rules or pressure needed. Inner alignment produces effortless outer fruit.
LDS teaching: Growth through consistent external efforts: daily scripture study, prayer, church attendance, missionary work, and ordinances. âLine upon lineâ via institutional programs.
7. Bring Forth What Is Within You
Gospel of Thomas 70 â âIf you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save youâŠâ
True meaning: Awaken and express the divine spark inside. Suppressing it destroys through unconscious living. Inner realization â liberated outer life.
LDS teaching: Develop divine potential (eternal progression to godhood) through obedience, temple endowments, and family sealings.
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So I think it is official, a bioterrorism attack with ticks..
This X news feed has made it apparent that ticks are being seen abnormally more than years before..
đ good thing our government will save us ...
@SculptorRett@HabCorpLinguist Most devout Christians see the LDS church lead by a false prophet teaching false doctrine..
Completely damning and satanic .. so therefore they usually are completely repelled and repulsed at the sight of ignorant follower cult like missionaries đ€·