@dreeezabz Making him a mouthpiece for liberals? It’s the retarded leftists that are trying to make him out to be a mouthpiece for the leftists. Liberals don’t nearly virtue signal to the extent that leftists do.
@cradu__@jagerssbu Also, when I think of “mashing”, I think of being able to throw out 1 or 2 strong safe moves constantly that either autocancel or don’t have much end lag at all, and usually get a ton of reward of hit. Sure joker can throw out back air a lot, but it heavily depends on the matchup
@cradu__@jagerssbu Also, when the joker player gets Arsene, they’re forced to try to interact with you which can become very telegraphed, and easy to camp him out to run out his Arsene. Joker doesn’t have any crazy moves to force interactions, he still has to rely mostly on movement to get in.
@cradu__@jagerssbu “Down air randomly kill confirms” Randomly? it does kill confirm wdym? Yes, his buttons become much stronger, but he loses out on being able to use gun in neutral as much, and eigon is much much easier to punish in neutral. His recovery becomes ass and counter is broken
@cradu__@jagerssbu He definitely needs Arsene to be top tier lmao, how else would he find his kills consistently?? As base joker you’d be forced to constantly go for reads to get a kill and that would make it much harder to close stocks unless you let him back air you for free.
@cradu__@jagerssbu Rebels guard I would agree can be “mashed” but even then if you hard read it then you get a lot of reward on joker because the end lag is 33 frames.
@cradu__@jagerssbu Unironically just don’t run into Fair. Fair 1 doesn’t autocancel, and doesn’t have little enough end lag to truly be able to mash another option afterward, he’s forced to shield or jump again. Most times I see people fair 1, they’re either mashing it (unsafe) or they get a read.
@cradu__@jagerssbu I mean you can definitely punish him for swinging depending on the matchup. Also, dash attacking in that situation is advantage state for joker, not necessarily mashing lol. If a joker is mashing dash attack in the big 2026 they are not playing him right lol.
@cradu__@jagerssbu “You get hit by any aerial and it sets up into a grab into a wobble for like 5 minutes.” This is just advantage state. Whenever I think of “mashing”, I think of being able to constantly go for hard to punish reversal options and constantly throwing out many safe neutral hitboxes