@Joel7Richardson Those who understand Trump do not take him literally but do take him seriously. The rest take him literally but not seriously. Anyone who hasn't learned this by now, doesn't want to learn.
@Joel7Richardson I believe I earned a Masters degree in discernment during my years at IHOPKC. You were (and are) one of my professors. We all have very deep regrets about many things. Hebrews 9 says we can have a healed conscience. That has helped me a lot.
@Joel7Richardson While it is obviously important and necessary to expose and remove these abusers, it is so important to expose and refute the NAR theology that enables this kind of fraud and abuse. Bethel, Morningstar, need deep correction that will never happen from within.
@BenSasse “If any man lives and believes in me, though he die yet shall he live. And everyone that lives and believes in me will never die.” -JesusChrist
@Joel7Richardson Oh boy... Storms was once recommended to me as a "proof witness" of the validity of the so-called prophetic history. I never contacted him after seeing that he describes himself as a "Christian Hedonist."
@Joel7Richardson Joyner is (and has been for years) an obvious false prophet. From statements such as "the church will be so full of glory that we will not even notice the tribulation" to quoting pages and pages of supposed direct conversations with Jesus, he is a fraud.
@Joel7Richardson It has been said that Secret Service agents are trained to spot counterfeit bills, not by studying fakes, but by studying real money. When the eye is focused on the real, the fake stands out. Great advice for all of us who share your deep frustration.
@Joel7Richardson This is best done with new or young Christians. In my experience most others are so steeped in either denominational dogma or kingdom now theology that they can't hear anything else. Many of these will fall away under great tribulation, while an enormous harvest is coming in.