Gretschory

Gamer, Movie enthusiast, writer. Be careful, darkness beyond this point possible BTW: Cthulhu is my spirit animal.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV But I see you want to misunderstand me. Well the same as ever.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV It is completely based on facts. He can call her that name because her actions are that of a nazi. That is the fact.
If you are a criminal and I call you that you can sue me for defamation but will lose. If I call you one and you aren't, you win. Simple.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV No this would be our conservatives. Our right wing extremists are your conservatives. Is that so hard to understand?

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV No it is because I had this discussion many times before. The result is the same. You keep spouting the same thing over and over again even if I correct it. So it is your perception against my realty. There is no way of doing this.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Better example from recent memory: an AfD politician sued a comedian for calling her a "Nazischlampe" (Nazibitch). She lost. The judge argued, that there is enough truth in that insult that she has to withstand it.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Yes you could. But said politician would be able go sue him.
Regarding the context they would probably just give him a small fine to pay.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Oh we do. But we call them Right wing extremists.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV I am tired. This discussion is going nowhere. You confirmed multiple times that it is literally the same in the us, yet that is free speech. Laughable. Have a good one

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Yes and I think that is ok.
If you use a slur in the US is there no chance you can get in trouble? (I mean in a monetary sense)
Because per definition slurs need to be inciting the possibility of greater risk to that group to be punishable with jail otherwise it is an insult

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV But is defamation not freedom of speech? Maybe there is a conflict in definition of the term here?

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Nope I do not. Communism does not work. History has shown that.
But you are right, your liberals are more on the right wing spectrum here but the conservatives we voted for are farther to the right.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Nah, germany is pretty good in abolishing stupid laws. It just takes sometime. It is a current issue and if there was another government at the moment it would have already happened. Yeah but unfortunately we chose conservatives.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Most of the times that is the case here, too.
As I told you the example you picked is the one we need to correct.

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Yes I prefer that. You still can say it but there will be consequences.
How is it with you? Earlier you told me I could not incite crimes against you without consequences? (This is what is meant by hate speech here in most of the cases)

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV What will happen if I get a lawsuit in the US for slandering you? Worst case scenario?

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Let me ask you this: what do you think you cannot say in germany beside the holocaust denial? (That is a special case regarding our history and non negotiable)

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV Dude you just do not want to listen. We actively try to abolish that bullshit.
Most courts in Germany do not even take it serious anymore.

Let's get to the next point. Migrants rule us? How? Where do you get your information from? FOX? That would be hilarious

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@tolear1158 @infightingfx @JobberNationTV So you guys literally can incite murder and nothing happens?
Yeah I take our system anyday.
The holocaust ds not debatable. And I absolutely agree with that.