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@Gaymanforever35 @griftart_ @homuraspirit It’s true, BUT it’s the art that gives the animation context. The character getting plowed is a black cat, and the art is his dad being next in line to plow him. The animation for that scenario is just two faceless bigger cats having their way with him and no mention of the dad

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@chavez85124 @zaexxon If you’re subscribed to ZCIK anywhere, he just released it like last week or so

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@fr4n_arts His arguments are purely subjective. The guy despises anything bara, and essentially hates ZCIK’s everything. Art style, the way he draws faces, and “the loops” argument. I forgot why he moved E-Zoid up. Also can you refer me to this Wonder artist? Haven’t heard of them until now

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@PoshPrimate @godisgood12544 @reiloveslemons Yeah. I’m like do you know where you are bro :/

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@vixenstar5656 @blankinon_names @yuhei_UbiGoreng Damn not you slandering my favorite one lmao…I’m not meaning to say that the effort he puts in should override the subjective experience, but the tier list maker was insanely harsh about the guys he put lower, which doesn’t sit right with me

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@onyxs1de You know what, that’s a good point. Like I get it’ll get its audience there, but this feels like a discussion he could’ve had with a private online chat

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@Tone_Ash1241512 Yeah this tier list guy is genuinely such a downer. I feel like the topic is too subjective, and his unabashed hatred for bara and desire for “realism” with furry cock and balls is genuinely baffling. Just let people goon

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@WeatherDoll66 And it was done so poorly too as if we wouldn’t fight the last flower after encountering them all

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@TemmieOrSmth99 I like Hatsei because he’s a sandwich: hat, face, scarf. I love how he gets squished in some sprites, and his expressions only add to the charm. Hatless Ralsei is literally a wall mount. The expressions are fine, but not having the scarf there makes it look so strange

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@EnclaveRemnant2 I WISH that was what he said in his first video. He literally crashed out about a single character having too much screen time and very passionately called him choppity chop chopped😭

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@TemmieOrSmth99 And plus since we fight all of the flowers beforehand, there was no point to even attempt to subvert expectations to an Asgore fight. Obviously we’re gonna fight the last damn flower

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@blankinon_names @c_closed228 @yuhei_UbiGoreng Literally this! I think the list maker has some of the shittiest criteria I’ve ever heard. The guy basically shits on anything bara related and thinks it’s an issue that ZCIK has his fan base because he animates. God forbid we appreciate that amount of effort

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@SweatyOldmen @reiloveslemons That’s kinda why I think he’s weird for having such a negative opinion on some of these guys. People are gonna like what they like, and I feel like making a tier list about something so subjective is just kinda pretentious and unnecessary

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@SweatyOldmen @reiloveslemons The tier list maker is odd. I can get behind the idea of wanting to see normal sex with furries, but I just find it odd that he criticizes big cocks and bara SO heavily in a majority LGBTQ+ fandom when we’re a fandom that embraces fantasy, sexuality, creativity, and liberation

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@c_closed228 @blankinon_names @yuhei_UbiGoreng I KNOOWWW!! And especially after checking out some of the other artists I didn’t know? I don’t want to say that their stuff is bad since I’m at square zero in terms of art, but like…c’mon now

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@alexskogg @yuhei_UbiGoreng THAT SOUNDS LEGIT FUN

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@ScotTinaDuh @man_o_valor @yuhei_UbiGoreng That’s a valid argument, and I have noticed that his more recent animations are indeed shorter, but only by a minute or so. As a huge fan of his works, I will say that his pacing could be tweaked a little, and I usually use his stuff to finish, not start

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@insect_pride Ain’t never read something so real in my damn life

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@Resqueeeeeee Literally like the first video was bad, but this guy might need his channel removed for that

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@SweatyOldmen @reiloveslemons The maker of the list said that he doesn’t like how ZCIK makes the cocks big, doesn’t like how he draws faces, the looping thing, and he considers him slop because he fills the space for “I want an animation of that character”. Doesn’t like his art style either…guy is odd