@womenonmen@2Skooll4Kool@StirlingWisdom You just misconstrued what he said. He never said women were attracted to low moral character, just that women are indifferent to morality. Moral character is simply not a standard that women prioritize over looks, money, etc. Moral character alone simply cannot attract a woman.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE Yeah but actions are only done to serve existing beliefs. If someone doesn’t believe in Jesus, which isn’t a choice, it’s simply a lack of conviction, then they will be sent to hell. That’s obviously not fair if beliefs are involuntary.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE How does two people eating an apple cause cancer and earthquakes to happen? These things occur naturally. Even if it was due to the fall of
man, it doesn’t justify the suffering placed on animals and innocent children.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE Can animals pray for themselves? Also if god intervenes for prayers, isn’t he disrupting the course of the world by impeding on people’s free will? He would have to reject prayers.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE Decision-making occurs in the spirit? Where does the spirit exist? You believe in psychology? When people receive brain damage, via car accidents, Alzheimer’s, etc, their ability to make decisions deteriorates. This is due to the fact that choices and thoughts occur in the brain.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE That’s not an answer. Where does decision-making occur? It of course occurs in the brain, and if the brain is governed by physical laws, your experiences are either determined, like in classical physics or random, like in quantum physics.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE Animals experience pain. They’re living creatures. They’re gods creation. God should love them, not view them as food for other animals. If that was the case, god could’ve made all animals herbivores, minimizing animal suffering greatly.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE No, it wouldn’t invalidate anyone’s free will because I’m talking about natural evil. Taking away cancer and congenital diseases doesn’t impede on anyone’s free will. Your ability to make decisions and actions would remain the same even if he took those away.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE But you’re sent to heaven or hell based on your belief in Jesus, not your actions. If you don’t believe in Jesus, and that he’s your savior, you’re sent to hell. Despite this, beliefs are not choices, they’re dictated by evidence and conviction.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE What is the spirit? It’s just a vague cop out. You know that decision-making and thoughts occur entirely in the brain, right? If not, where else do they occur?
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE You don’t care about animal suffering? They experience pain as well. Children simply cannot accept Jesus as their savior?, up until a certain age, because they can’t form religious beliefs.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE And what about doxastic involuntarism? Beliefs are not choices. Why would you send people to hell over choices which they ultimately have no control over. Don’t even get me started on birthplace being a statistical indicator of whether or not you make it to heaven or hell.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE Physically speaking, yes you are. Physics only allows for determined or random outcomes. Both of which, do not allow for libertarian free will. The same physics that governs humans and human brains, where decision-making occurs.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE If Adam and Eve consented to rebellion and defying god, it doesn’t mean god is allowed to overlook the suffering of animals and the humans that came after. If he’s all-powerful and all-loving, he would prevent gratuitous suffering.
@AhlbornLuc27543@BENZOTOOIE Animals experience gratuitous suffering such as the example I gave with the deer. What is the justification for allowing this suffering occur if god is all-loving and loves his creations, wanting to minimize their suffering. Animals of different species that never consented.