@bigshwoisten@BigNastyKail We are also talking about a fireball that doesn't move fast and has to be done at the right distance because it doesn't go full screen
@bigshwoisten@BigNastyKail in situations where they are done simultaneously (it doesn't even have to be simultaneously) she will get hit and knocked down, while her opponent is more often then not able to block hers.
I think its real corny that Juri cant do smp > cmp on block against Luke doing cmp. If I'm +2, and my cmp is 6 frames...I trade with 4 frames.
HOW LUKES CMP NOT GET STUFFED?!?!
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly It's nothing else because store is not a deterrent it actually works in reverse because the existence of driverush after fireball prevents her for negating the fb
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly You think I don't watch high lvl juri gameplay? At this point I don't know if you're choosing to miss the point of this conversation on purpose or not. For other characters their options are universal mechanic and x.for juri its universal mechanic and nothing else
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly Also also, you didn't react to him doing o.d unless you're "that guy" regardless one is an extra option thats unique to the character that "could" punish the fb attempt. I'm not talking about risk reward that that tool I'm talking about the existence of said option
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly Now say you're juri. Did you jump or did you try to double p.p. one character has more options. Btw jumping isn't the right move because he recovered and did anti air
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly That's not the point!! the existence of the option is a deterrent. Just because you don't represent it doesn't mean it's not there. Having a gun with no bullets is not the same as not having a gun at all. Do you understand?
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly 1 your statement is only true if you're saying a character unique option is a system mechanic which we both know you're not. 2 nobody said there was an 1 tool to rule them all.
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly Perfect parry is not a deterrent to fireballs unless I make it one. Which means hitting that 2 frame window and doing whatever possible punish is available to me afterwards and incase it's not obvious, sometimes there is none
@Order_KaiKoi@ArtificialHolly Saying that bison has another option besides o.d crusher proves my point. Regardless of its frame data ( it's safe btw... and an anti air) it's another option he has. It's also a deterrent to fb. There's a difference between a passive answer like parry and a deterrent