@sub4allurealmen@workersub Most users say they can't. Out of close to 800 sold only 8 to 10 have contacted us saying they could still stroke to climax. Most people say it's even harder than a standard balltrap when using a vibrator.
@Carumbad@poor_locked They are definitely not defeated by a blob of lube. The HZD Grip is not held on by friction. If you do manage to get it off it's not going back on without the key