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Frustrated with media bias from both the right and left. I hope to encourage reporters to be consistent rather than partisan in their coverage.

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Ron is definitely your man. You inaccurately summed up my post, just like he does. No, it is not semantics. Ron is trafficking in misinformation that has caused many people to believe that Mormons have suddenly been removed from a Christian list. That is not even close to what actually happened.

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@Mirabellegems @RonFilipkowski @grok No, that is not true. The original list did not use the “Christian” prefix. The new list uses the Christian prefix for the first time, so Mike Lee is complaining that they did not add the prefix to the Mormon entry.

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@grok @SallysHuman777 @AlbieDuncan @RonFilipkowski Exactly. Thanks for confirming.

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@grok @SallysHuman777 @AlbieDuncan @RonFilipkowski No, you are incorrect. See screenshots.

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@grok @SallysHuman777 @AlbieDuncan @RonFilipkowski But LDS is not treated differently in the old list. All Christian groups on the old list have their own code and are not prefixed with “Christian -“.

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@SallysHuman777 @AlbieDuncan @RonFilipkowski @grok @grok

Please confirm that this is a copy of the previous list AND that LDS was not treated differently from all other Christian groups on this list:

https://t.co/eQeXiMe8fn

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@JoStewart22 @RonFilipkowski @grok It will be fixed. Let’s just say that I have familiarity with this type of issue. The end result will be some developer widening a database column.

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@d12_damage @RonFilipkowski @grok Who among us has not been guilty of letting our emotions thwart our ability to reason?

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@JoStewart22 @RonFilipkowski @grok If there was a theological component, Jehovah’s Witness, Christian Scientist, and Seventh Day Adventist would have also been excluded. All four of them are outside of the Protestant orthodoxy that they came out of. That is how they are treated in secular studies of Christianity.

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No, he didn’t.

The original list did not have “Christian” prefixes, so the Mormons were not “removed” from a Christian list. Their name is unchanged between the two lists. Mike Lee is complaining that the Christian prefix was not added to the Mormons on the new list. An editor-in-chief shouldn’t be so sloppy in fact checking his own post before posting.

This is not a defense of Mike Lee, who is mad about something that is almost certainly an administrative issue like column width for name or an administrative error.

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Well, the Jews wrote all those books, including the later ones that Catholics kept. They wrote those later books for a reason to get through some tough times, but they never considered them to be authentic canon. Early Christians translated the books and included them in the Septuagint. Catholics decided to keep them under a tradition as faith argument at the Council of Trent. Jews and Protestants have no problem with reading them, but consider them to be apocryphal. And who was the first famous Catholic to use the word apocryphal to describe them? That would be St. Jerome, who did the Latin Vulgate translation for the Catholic Church.

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Yes, you are looking at the correct list. Mike Lee is complaining that the Mormons didn’t get prefixed with Christian. The Mormon listing is unchanged between the old and new lists. It was most certainly not a slight to the Mormons and may be something as simple as a limited column width in a database. It is clearly just something administrative.

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@ThoughtfulSaint The Bible clearly lays out how to identity a false prophet. Joseph Smith’s “translation” of the Book of Abraham is all the proof anyone objectively needs to know he was a false prophet.

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Facts do matter.

The Bible clearly warns of false prophets and that if they fail once that means they are false. The definitive proof is Joseph Smith saying that he translated the Book of Abraham from Egyptian papyri. We now know his translation was false. That’s pretty much game, set, and match in declaring everything he wrote as false. The Mormon apologists struggle to come up with excuses which are not credible in light of what Joseph Smith was on record of saying. Examples are that the ones he translated were part of a fire, but the surviving ones just happen to have nothing to do with Abraham OR he was spiritually inspired to create the Book of Abraham from a text that had nothing to do with Abraham.

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@stupidcaveman @PatriarchBowser Not exactly.

The Protestant Old Testament matches the content of the Jewish Tanakh / Hebrew Bible exactly.

It is the Catholics that include books that both Jews and Protestants consider to not be authentic canon.

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@JohnChr42 @RonFilipkowski @grok Correct. Unfortunately, that is not what Ron said.

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Facts do matter.

The Bible clearly warns of false prophets and that if they fail once that means they are false. The definitive proof is Joseph Smith saying that he translated the Book of Abraham from Egyptian papyri. We now know his translation was false. That’s pretty much game, set, and match in declaring everything he wrote as false. The Mormon apologists struggle to come up with excuses which are not credible in light of what Joseph Smith was on record of saying. Examples are that the ones he translated were part of a fire, but the surviving ones just happen to have nothing to do with Abraham OR he was spiritually inspired to create the Book of Abraham from a text that had nothing to do with Abraham.

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@Mirabellegems @RonFilipkowski @grok No, you need to read my post and review what Mike Lee has said.

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@AlbieDuncan @RonFilipkowski @grok Mike Lee hasn’t complained about the Pentagon “removing” the Mormons from the list of Christians. He complained that the Mormons were not listed under Christian. Ron made an assumption that wasn’t true.

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@PrincSandTheP @RonFilipkowski What are you talking about? Ron made an assumption that was incorrect. Be accurate or don’t post.

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@AlbieDuncan @RonFilipkowski @grok Mike Lee hasn’t complained about the Pentagon “removing” the Mormons from the list of Christians. He complained that the Mormons were not listed under Christian. Ron made an assumption that wasn’t true.

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@MikeCrapo You got some bad information Senator. The Pentagon did not change the listing for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It has always appeared on the list this way.