@carlystarr82 @fillandgrunt@Ian765775144 @atalanta44 @jk_rowling That's not what I said! The scenario being discussed was someone who WAS attracted to someone, until the person said "I am trans", at which point the person was revulsed by their trans status. Being revulsed by trans people is transphobia! Can you see that?
@fillandgrunt@Ian765775144 @carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @jk_rowling It's fine to not sleep with anyone, anytime, for any reason - but if that reason is because of bigoted beliefs, then maybe take some time to re-examine them - after all, they've just caused you to end a relationship with someone you were previously presumably very keen on.
@carlystarr82 @fillandgrunt@Ian765775144 @atalanta44 @jk_rowling Not at all. I'm saying racism and transphobia are both types of bigotry. Look, I think the underlying problem here might be that you don't think transphobia is a form of bigotry. Do you, or don't you?
@fillandgrunt@Ian765775144 @carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @jk_rowling No I didn't. I said it's always fine to refuse to sleep with anyone, for any, or no, reason. But if you feel repulsed or revulsed by someone purely because they are trans, then that's transphobic.
@Ian765775144 @carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @fillandgrunt@jk_rowling How have you turned "That's fine, don't sleep with them" into ""They have to sleep with them"? You turned what I said into the opposite of what I said to make a point!!
@carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @fillandgrunt@jk_rowling In real life, trans people are not predators. They don't want to be with someone who doesn't accept them and love them - they are the same as you and me, they just want to live in peace and not be hounded. They don't wish women any harm at all. They just want to live. Is that ok?
@carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @fillandgrunt@jk_rowling I absolutely agree that sexuality is innate! The cartoon is saying that trans people exist. They are real. That women cannot bash them because of their body parts. Not even if the woman is also in a marginalised group. No-one is saying anyone has to sleep with them! Ctd
@carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @fillandgrunt@jk_rowling If you are talking about when a lesbian woman is attracted to a trans woman, are you are saying they are attracted to them because of sex or because of gender?
@carlystarr82 @atalanta44 @fillandgrunt@jk_rowling Of course you shouldn't force yourself to have sex. You should never, ever do that! If the situation was that you'd believed they were white, and they told you they were mixed race, and for that reason you upped and left, would that make you a bigot?
@carlystarr82 @fillandgrunt @atalanta44 @jk_rowling No, I did not. No matter how many times you say it. But saying trans people don't or can't exist is bigoted. They do exist. Just leave them alone!
@carlystarr82 @fillandgrunt @atalanta44 @jk_rowling No, I am not telling people that at all. Let me say again, CONSENT IS PARAMOUNT and anyone can withhold it for any reason. But if someone is a bigot, you cannot ban people from being able to say, "Your view is bigoted". Revulsion at the thought of a trans person is bigotry.