@flamewave7@FreeBird_2023@RealAndersonBen@CathyYoung63@grok legally should? your argument sounded more ethical in nature. you could also call prisons concentration camps by the same line of thought. should we let everyone in prison go free on such a basis?
@flamewave7@RealAndersonBen@CathyYoung63@grok the reality is that border enforcement necessitates evils like those you describe. and it can be argued that the evils of immigration enforcement are lesser than those that result from a lack of enforcement. life is sad, flawed, and unfair, and our choices come with trade-offs...
@flamewave7@RealAndersonBen@CathyYoung63@grok im no octogenarian but im old enough to remember a few things and one of those things i remember is the spread of photographs of immigrant children in cages as though it was some monstrosity of the trump administration... but those pictures were taken in 2014.
@flamewave7@RealAndersonBen@CathyYoung63@grok the reality is that trumps views and policies on immigration are really are not that extreme when viewed from a historical context, be it 20 years ago, 200, or 2000...
@flamewave7@RealAndersonBen@CathyYoung63@grok be realistic, not partisan... as far as i can tell trump doesnt even give that much of a fuck about immigration, to him it was just an effective political tactic... trump and his closest friends are rich and isolated from the negative effects of immigration on working americans
@tax_some57592@TheBibleIsJesus u can call me a gooner a heretic a sinner it all washes off me like water because no matter what you say im still not so stupid as to think the catholic church actually represents anything divine... the history that proves it is available for all of us to read
@tax_some57592@TheBibleIsJesus doesnt matter when u say hes infallible, the office of the papacy is inherently worldly (fallible) as evidenced by its fielding armies and active participation in politics historically as well as in modern day with such performative acts as the canonization of juan diego