it’s been about four months since we started our four-day workweek experiment and i can honestly say that the idea of a five-day workweek now seems insane looking back, both because three days are necessary for a proper weekend and no job truly needs all five days
This I think is the main reason why we don't already have unconditional basic income, and also why it's so important that we achieve it. UBI is the power born of no longer being desperate, and the freedom to choose the job that's best for you, at the wage you feel is sufficient.
@JimNickola@jasonhickel @Autonomy_UK More bureaucracy= higher likelihood of corruption and obstruction. Growth may not be the purpose of a JG, but it is hard to imagine how it wouldn't use/waste massive amounts of resources. And for what? People can do useful work without a job, they just need income to do so
@JimNickola@jasonhickel @Autonomy_UK A JG would be an albatross to implement and administer. It would also be easy to undermine and abuse at the local level. I just don't see how a JG aligns with the degrowth. The job creation mentality is incompatible with sustainability and will sabotage our efforts to achieve it
Caring for an infant isn't work, unless you get paid to do it for someone else? And it's more valuable to society to make people jump through hoops, than it is to raise kids with love? Screw that. Parents don't need work. They need the work they're already doing to be recognized.
@JimNickola@jasonhickel @Autonomy_UK The most sustainable job is the one that's not created because either A) the work done does not increase human well-being or B) someone is happily doing the needed human well-being producing work outside of the job structure because they don't need a job to acquire income.
@JimNickola@jasonhickel @Autonomy_UK I think if people had the autonomy to use their time to pursue the work that they are passionate about and if government provided the means that allowed them to pursue this work - we would not have to worry much about creating jobs.
@JimNickola@jasonhickel @Autonomy_UK Even with jobs being reimagined, what you're describing is more in line with a jobs program as opposed to a jobs guarantee. I also don't see the need to "jobify" the work that would happily be done if one didn't have to worry about income.
@JimNickola@jasonhickel What requires a rethink is how we obtain income, not what constitutes a job. Jobism and consumerism are the two pillars that prop up our dysfunctional economic system. There's plenty of evidence that suggests work has ecological limits. See @Autonomy_UK
@JimNickola@jasonhickel There is important work to be done. That being said, the majority of the most meaningful /well being producing work is not and probably could not be associated with a job. The meaningful work that could be "jobified" is often more project-based and thus would come and go.