Alessandro

Instaurare omnia in Christo

[Ardianto Satriawan @ardisatriawan]

Buset, rencana MBG disetop waktu libur, mau dibawa ke pengadilan sama pengusaha MBG 🤣

Jadi yang lapar siswanya apa pengusahanya?

[mentari²⁶ ⋆☀︎. @mawarmentary]

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[American Reform @AmericanReform_]

Post-conciliar ecclesiology for everyone, save for Catholics like the SSPX, SSPX-R, SSPV, CMRI, ICR, etc. who reject Vatican II. 😵‍💫

[American Reform @AmericanReform_]

If the SSPX is a “damnable sect” as some conservatives maintain, in keeping with the Second Vatican Council, they would also have to simultaneously hold:

1. The SSPX as such is used by the Holy Ghost as a means of salvation (Paul VI, Unitatis Redintegratio, no. 3).

2. The persons in the SSPX are, importantly, not outside the Catholic Church, far from it, rather they enjoy partial communion with the Church of Christ (John Paul II, Dominus Jesus, no. 17).

3. Continuing, their beliefs, although differing from those who accept Vatican II, can be the effect of the Holy Ghost operating outside the visible structures of the Mystical Body (John Paul II, Redemptor Hominis, no. 6).

4. At the sacrifices of their masses, the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church becomes truly present (Cardinal Ratzinger, Letter to the Bishops of the Catholic Church on Some Aspects of the Church Understood as Communion, no. 17).

[Hildifons @Hildifons159911]

@JeffCassman @KeithFournier7 Don’t forget Slipyj, who consecrated bishops against papal orders while his people could still access Latin Rite Sacraments, yet has a cause for sainthood.

[Jeff Cassman @JeffCassman]

@KeithFournier7 Can't wait to see the follow up on why Wojtyla's consecrations in direct disobedience of Rome were okay, and why the disobedience of the Chinese Bishops are also not a problem.

[Refute FrMartin @RefuteFrMartin]

@EricRSammons @pontificatormax Weigel lies. Feeney wasn’t excommunicated for EENS, but for baptism by water only.

[Dena Fredrickson @dena30211]

@EricRSammons This is the real issue. Leo just exposed it with his “fundamental elements” remark. This is no longer a procedural or juridical matter but one of belief.

[Clementine Bayswater @CBayswater]

@EricRSammons Why else did so many Catholic missionaries, including saints and martyrs, take great risks to bring the faith to the ends of the earth, if not because they believed it necessary to save souls?

[Eric Sammons @EricRSammons]

Some SSPX critics have gone from accusing them of schism to accusing them of heresy, but in doing so they reveal their own rejection of Catholic teaching.

Case in point: George Weigel rejects a statement that not a single Catholic before the 1960’s would have rejected.

[Ega @thebabayega_]

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[Kennedy Hall @kennedyhall]

Well, by the norms laid out by the Church, because Paul VI said they counted as Supreme Ordinary Magisterium, which is a fancy way of saying the ordinary magisterium of the pope, which is akin to a general encyclical. An encyclical can be solemn and it would be obvious when it is, as per the norms of how solemn teaching is promulgated in such a manner.

Nonetheless, the documents from V2 do not declare or define in those ways.

So, as per the norms, even post-conciliar with something like Donum Veritatis, there are standards wherein one can disagree with something proposed that is non-definitive.

So, a theologian follows those norms, and since he can walk and chew gum, he puts Mortalium Animos or the Syllabus beside Dignitatus or Unitatus and sees the obvious contradiction and break with the perennial doctrine of the Church.

[Henry von Blumenthal @PaulinusOfTrier]

If we are to take Cardinal Fernandez seriously, we must take seriously his statement in his February notice to the SSPX that there are matters in Vatican II which need clarification.

If that is so, it is utterly unreasonable to ask anyone to assent to Vatican II in its entirety.

[LB236 @thelb236]

@AutismLutheran1 Enlighten me, then. What are the "new doctrines" JP2 references in Ecclesia Dei that Vatican 2 taught, especially in light of the fact that public revelation (new doctrine) ended at the death of St. John?

[Mass of the Ages @massoftheages]

The New Mass changed almost everything

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[Alessandro @IAlessandroS]

@peterswindal @thelb236 you must think that you're smart

[LB236 @thelb236]

@peterswindal Nice deflection. I’m going to presume you have no idea what Vatican 2 binds on the conscience either. So stop telling people to accept this amorphous thing no one can distill down to its essence.

[LB236 @thelb236]

@peterswindal I can easily make a bullet points list of the essential things Trent teaches that are binding:

Vulgate is inerrant
Mass is a sacrifice
Canon of Scripture is 73 books

Etc.

Why can nobody do this for Vatican 2? Why is this so difficult?

[Kevin Tierney @CatholicSmark]

@peterswindal This is silly though. Rome should avoid clarifying because bad actors would reject it?

That's how you get 60 years later and Fernandez admits we don't actually know what the consensus position on Vatican II you must assent to is.

[LB236 @thelb236]

Like Kevin here said, Fernandez admitted in his February letter to the SSPX that there are still points in Vatican 2 that need "clarification." So how is anyone supposed to "assent" to something when they don't even know what they're assenting to? They've had 60 years to clarify this and they still can't tell us.

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