@GikoJam@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions Well, if you were guaranteed to not get diseased and also no one would know so it wouldn't effect the social dynamic, would you then consider it neutral and acceptable?
@GikoJam@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions Well how would your instinct of self preservation stop you from doing it? Mind you I don't mean how would it not encourage you to do it rather I'm asking how is it negative instead of neutral
@WhippedHybrids@Arsgratiavitae@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions Oh. My. God.
please scroll up a tad and you'll see the whole point was that atheists can't morally justify why it's wrong and it's been proven hundreds of times, if you believe in magic moral weight then you're no longer an atheist and we're debating something entirely different
@WhippedHybrids@Arsgratiavitae@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions Also just to return to your previous point about me strawmanning your belief in this magic moral weight, you just confirmed it once more, how is straw man if you word for word said it though?
@WhippedHybrids@Arsgratiavitae@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions "Because objects are not living beings and therefore have no moral weight to them" is it not right to logically deduce you mean living beings have moral weight? How is it a straw man if you literally said it?
@Nisikaa1@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions That's honestly a very good take, I'll give you that, and it's the point I've been trying to make the entire time, unless we all share a non subjective moral code then there's precisely no reason to guarantee every person should see doing it with road kill as bad
@vincentcovetwo@WhippedHybrids@Arsgratiavitae@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions Well of course I can't answer because I don't think it's okay, how can I defend a point I don't agree with? But in a world with zero inherent morals (atheism) then there is precisely zero reason why it's bad either, so it's neutral
@Nisikaa1@remaininl1ght@Gr33nOnions That's a somewhat logical stance but it would insinuate that anything be that murder, rape, whatever can be logical and moral given you find it moral