Jonté

☦︎ BSc in Philosophy

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

Update: I am officially an Orthodox Christian!

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

We need to break the cycle of idolizing the workforce and corporate ladders.

[uniq @ethrealuniq]

i have survived too much to ever think God isn’t real, grace has carried me all the days of my life

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@JayDias1347607 Amen! Christos Anesti!

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

Update: I am officially an Orthodox Christian!

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@BytheSeaApts Likewise! Thank you so much

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

Today is the day for my baptism into the Orthodox Church! Pray for me!

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@Kyn_Okk Alithos Anesti!

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

Groups of people are merely that, groups. What makes that group a cult is their practices, or particular belief and/or ideology they uphold. Christianity could qualify as a cult based on that. But you can’t have one without the other and still say you have a cult. That’s foolish.

You could easily say, “I don’t want to answer,” and I will move on. But to pretend that you haven’t been vague and dodging the questions I asked is ludicrous. Your point that you’re only referring to groups still isn’t adequate.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

I’m going to assume he is concluding Christianity is a death cult. Christians, what’s wrong with this conclusion? Comment below!

[That Bulldozer Tho @WildBulldozer]

A group that operates by a shared belief system that:

-Demands conformity
-Glorifies martyrdom
-Eats flesh/ drinks blood (even as a simulated act)
-Bears an execution device as a cultural symbol

Is a death cult.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@WildBulldozer I’m not. I didn’t tell you, “You need to or you better give an answer.” That’s ordering you. I asked you.
No. An ideology, belief, practice, etc. is a necessary condition for a cult to exist. It cannot be “just people.”

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@dumbsushi I am actually. I’ve been here ~9 months

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@dumbsushi I agree though.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@WildBulldozer So then be specific and explicit then. Do you think that Christianity is a death cult? If so, elaborate and be specific. If not, why not? Be specific. That’s literally all I’m asking.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@FU4U2C Christos Anesti!

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

No, my contention is I have good suspicion that you were implicit in mentioning Christianity as one of the death cults based on your characterizations and when I asked you about it and to be specific you became more vague in your responses.
I don’t believe Christianity is a death cult so the “it’s telling” portion doesn’t bother me. That still does not mean that someone can’t try and make general characterizations about it to imply such.

So, to my question that you have not answered: Do you think Christianity is a death cult? If not, why not and which sect? If so, elaborate.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@WildBulldozer That has nothing to do with my contention.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

I agree that your original post wasn’t vague at all. It’s the reason I responded to it. For example, you mentioned: “Eats flesh/ drinks blood (even as a simulated act)” as one of the characteristics of a death cult, according to you. We call this simulated act “Communion” or “Eucharist” in Christianity. You don’t have to mention Christianity explicitly in order to be referencing it.

This is like saying, “Guys have beards if they have hair on their chin,” and a guy with a beard responds and I said, “I never even mentioned you specifically.” That’s very bizarre, lol.

However, your succeeding reply did become more vague. If I said “Guys with beards are x, if they’re a,b,c, etc.” and then when you ask me to elaborate
And I say, “some guys with the beard fit what I said but some don’t, don’t they?” you’d conclude I’m not addressing the question and being vague, correct?

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

I don’t know, this is why I’m asking you. I’m asking you to elaborate your position. The response you gave is still vague to a degree. Your answer implies that some forms of Christianity don’t demand conformity, glorify martyrdom. I’m asking, why don’t they? And if you could please elaborate on the sects that don’t that’d be helpful.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@WildBulldozer I think we should clarify.
Do you think any form of Christianity, irregardless of sect, demands conformity? If so, to what? If not, why not?

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@LeeTWimberly Right. We don’t glorify martyrs, we pay respect to them. We only give glory to God.

[Jonté @IamJonte_]

@LeeTWimberly Even if granted. It can be argued that everyone conforms or even demand conformity to something on a basic, psychological level. Thus, it can also be argued that this point does not move the needle in his favor.