@Fatboi_360@RampageStew@RequiemDiamond Its not different at all. Goku was stronge enough to kill frieza asap but he let him reach full power so that frieza would know for sure that he was absolutely defeated. Vegeta beat semi perfect cell & did the same thing so that he would know that he was absolutely the strongest.
@Fatboi_360@RampageStew@RequiemDiamond No he did not. king kai made EVERYTHING happen and it was all his plan. All goku did was tell him not to take HIM off namek.
Goku did not let frieza reach full power for krillin that doesn't even make sense he did it so he can show friea that he was absolutely stronger than him
@Fatboi_360@RampageStew@RequiemDiamond then again, Goku in fact did not make that wish. all he did was tell king kai who WAS making all the wishes in the background not to take him off planet namek so he can continue to fight frieza.
just like goku then, vegeta only wanted to fight cell at his best.
@Fatboi_360@RampageStew@RequiemDiamond Lol goku made that wish way after letting frieza power up to 100%. ppl dont realize is that goku and vegeta are the same person goku is just rewarded for his selfishness while vegeta isnt. Vegeta helping cell reach 100% isnt for any other reason than to kill him when he does.
@JSmoove12709@GalaxySoldier lmaooo so i missed "he is arrogant" and "he is dumb". Either way none of the reasons you gave are critical, they are all personal judgements from a goku fanboy going crazy over someone saying vegeta is possibly better than him
@JSmoove12709@GalaxySoldier nope I listed everything you have said so far... "Vegeta is an asshole= he is mean" " Vegeta exists to troll= he was made to be laughed at" " Vegeta held a grudge for 7 years=he wants to surpass goku" "Vegeta tried to kill goku" What did i miss?
@JSmoove12709@GalaxySoldier Yes he is annoying (your personal opinion btw) and he is bad because he is mean and tried to kill goku and wanted to surpass him, which somehow means toriyama created him to get laughed at. If thats not childish idk what isππGrow up bro
@RampageStew@RequiemDiamond Well yes but the situation was different, and the principles were nonetheless the same, Vegeta wasn't exactly "helping" Cell level up as much as he was trying to prove his absolute superiority. Which he would have also done to frieza had he reached ssj, the same way goku did.
@JSmoove12709@GalaxySoldier Yea u fit the description of what i was talking about in the first place. You dont like vegeta morally so he is automatically a bad character to you, which is uncritical and childish, I should have known from how riled up you got based on a simple statement.
@JSmoove12709@GalaxySoldier Considering how passionately your are denouncing me over my simple comparison which doesn't disparage goku in any way btw nor say tht vegeta is the best character ever suggest you are the delusional one.
@POOHEADZ189 changing for the sake of it. This Contradiction culminates in his sacrifice against Buu who is born because of him becoming a villian again(as roshi remarks) yet stopped(attempted)by his desire to be the hero(shown by the sacrifice which mirrors goku's).
@POOHEADZ189 Development isnt just bad to good or vice versa & it isnt necessarily change either.Vegeta's character is interesting due to his resistance to change while also desiring it, & this contradiction develops into something more fully present in his life rather than part of him justβ
@Broski2096410 @RealTruggler the only thing they have in common is being aliens who eventually come to earth. Their reasons are different and so is everything that happens after that point. in that sense omniman is as similar to vegeta as he is to goku