Imlikeabird

American woman.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@orignlAmerican @crystaljpropes Your comment is non-responsive.
Very few people are suggesting she’s not guilty.
But thoughtful people are considering the choices & actions, including the drugs prescribed, that led to the final horrific outcome, specifically for the purpose of preventing future disaster.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@JBB4768 @crystaljpropes Many of these type comments are coming from men. This notion, that anyone, anywhere, has suggested Lindsay Clancy is a “hero” is the counterpart to the notion that she didn’t do it.
Sad to see such loud voices of extremism; especially when the rational voices seem so quiet.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@vauntedrevelrie Also, we’re looking at a woman who, having committed these acts three years ago, has been living in the reality for a while.
Devoted, engaged, mother for over 5 years, deteriorated over a 4-month period, and lived paralyzed, in a mental health facility for 3 years.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@CathySmith35 @crystaljpropes The thing is: that isn’t “the end”. Because if we do not confront every step that paved the path, the pharmaceutical industry and the providers will change nothing, guaranteeing future disasters.
Pretending this is simple is to fail others in advance. I won’t participate.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@Alec_Zeck Or, even the possibility that the drugs altering effects on consciousness render the mind defenseless from demonic attack.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@mtracey *gasp*
Not Mr. Walsh taking the very controversial stance that a mother killing her children is bad?
And then chasing it with a willful refusal to consider any facts which might lead to better future outcomes?
Stunning and brave.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@crazypuce So grateful that the reasonable women have finally come out of hiding on this topic that I’m engaging with each sensible post I read!
Quite the bad look for those men suggesting there exists any significant cohort of women who wish to kill their children and “get away with it.”

[Linda Hamonou @crazypuce]

Not a single person believes that “its ok to kill kids if you’re sad”.
Men created that idea in their heads, attributed it to women and got mad about it, nothing more.

You’re suffering from mass psychosis.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@t_twotwos @KeenanPeachy Check the record. Specifically, New Year’s Eve, 2022. She checked herself in to McLean Hospital (psychiatric facility) and stayed until she was discharged.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@His_Forkiness @t_twotwos @KeenanPeachy This is untrue.
On New Year’s Eve, 2022, she checked herself in to McLean Hospital -a psychiatric facility. She was there for days until she was discharged.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@pr0meteu5 @KeenanPeachy She checked herself into the hospital. They released her.
“You retards?”

[Maryam @hell_line0]

Or, and hear me out, OR, they’re the eyes of a mother who fought a mental battle, was drugged and almost murdered and lost her beloved and darling children. Then, after waking from surgery and coding twice she was handcuffed and told she did and a warrant was already for her arrest. And her husband had forgiven her and moved on with 1.4 million dollars. AND since then she has been medicated daily in a mental hospital. Maybe, just MAYBE, that’s what her eyes are telling us.

[Mel @Villgecrazylady]

I think the fact that the prosecution could not find a single person who knew her to say anything bad about Lindsay Clancy as a mother or even as a person… coupled with the fact that the Clancy family all clearly still support and love her… is what ultimately doomed this case.

There’s a handful of different angles I think the prosecutors could’ve pursued, esp regarding her willful misuse of her prescribed psychotropics (like… why TF wouldn’t you pound THAT home instead of just trying to claim she was barely taking them at all? Erratic usage is literally linked to exasperated side effects, why not treat this as more of a “psychosis from recreational drug use” instead of pretending the drugs weren’t a thing at all?)

But ultimately it was the Clancy family showing up day in and day out, sitting behind her, supporting her, that likely convinced those 11 jurors that something truly terrible happened in that woman’s mind that night and if the people who should hate her more than anything don’t then she’s probably telling the truth about not being in control of herself.

I don’t know, I don’t have any emotional attachment to this case. I just think it’s a tragedy and even if she’s acquitted she’ll still be living in hell for the rest of her life. So I guess I just don’t understand the hyperemotional freak outs so many people are having, on both sides, bc everyone still loses in this absolute nightmare of a situation, regardless of what the jury decides.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@Spiltea Crazy-making.
Those who love the children the most support her.
Unraveling was quick once the 13 drugs were introduced.
“Begging for help”, suicide hotline, multiple docs, intrusive thoughts, sleep w/her mother &
5+ yrs maternal devotion gone!
Prescribers get zero consequences.

[Harriet Vogt @harriet48293]

Incorrect - 4 drugs found in her bloodstream post infanticide /suicide attempt -mirtazapine, lamotrigine, trazadone, quetiapine. The first 3 carry 'hallucination' warnings, the 4th delirium. Don't be misled by 'therapeutic dose'- toxic after effects like #PSSD can last years.

[Imlikeabird @Imlikeabird66]

@kayleighmcenany Some of us want to see those “consequences” shared with the providers who dosed a mentally disturbed woman, begging for help, with a cocktail of psychotropic drugs that likely facilitated the final outcome.
Those who love the children the most support Lindsay.

[D. Alec Zeck @Alec_Zeck]

I know one thing for certain about this Lindsay Clancy trial, and I say this based on my own direct experience watching my mother suffer for years under a fistful of psychotropic medications:

Nowhere near enough attention is being paid to the fact that Lindsay Clancy was cycled on and off 13 different psychotropic medications in an absurdly short window of time.

For years, I watched my own mother suffer tremendously. I would never wish what my siblings and I, nor what my mother, experienced on anyone. It was hell.

She didn’t sleep for days on end, didn’t eat, screamed that it felt like her skin was burning off, screamed that it felt like her brain was being zapped, sat in front of her bathroom mirror staring wide eyed without saying anything, hallucinated that she was 13 years old and I was her father, saw demons and shadowy figures in the room, was in and out of psychiatric hospitals, and attempted to end her life more than once.

These drugs don’t just fail to fix people. They mask symptoms, manufacture new ones, and in some cases push people toward harming themselves or someone else—and the industry that profits from them has spent decades making sure the general public doesn’t fully grasp how often that happens. They rip people apart psychologically and physically. They rip families apart, too.

I’m not on “team Lindsay” or “team Patrick,” and I don’t know what happened in that house. But the medication piece keeps getting drowned out by true crime theorizing.

In the 4 months before the killings, Clancy was pumped through 13 different psychiatric medications, with over 30 total prescriptions as doses got yanked up, down, and swapped, by multiple providers who never once compared notes with each other.

The publicly available data backs this up, and they’re not “fringe” in any sense:

The FDA’s own 2006 review of 372 antidepressant trials (nearly 100,000 people) found a 2.3x jump in suicidality risk for patients under 25. That’s why every antidepressant in America now carries a black box warning.

A 2015 Swedish national study found SSRI users aged 15-24 were convicted of violent crimes at more than 5x the rate of non users (3.3% vs 0.6%). Sertraline in particular stood out among the top-prescribed SSRIs.

Roughly 1 in 4 American women is currently on some form of psychiatric medication, per the CDC’s own newest data, nearly double the rate for men. This isn’t a fringe issue at all. It’s mainstream medicine, quietly, on a massive scale.

And the problems with rapid switching or cold stopping these drugs, exactly what happened to Clancy, isn’t a fringe theory:

Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome is very real and can, at a minimum, trigger brain zaps, insomnia, anxiety, and suicidal ideation within days of stopping.

Benzodiazepine withdrawal is one of the most dangerous withdrawal syndromes in all of medicine, capable of triggering, at a minimum, rebound psychosis, seizures, and severe agitation. I watched that happen to my own mother.

Cross tapering (stopping one drug abruptly while starting another) can stack withdrawal from the first on top of side effects from the second, leaving a person destabilized from both directions at once.

According to the medical system’s own ideas, psychiatric medications typically take 4-6 weeks just to reach full effect, and many require slow, deliberate tapering over weeks specifically to avoid destabilizing the nervous system.

Going through 13 drugs in that same window means many of them never had time to even show whether they were “working” (which is a loaded, problematic idea, in and of itself…) before being swapped again.

13 different medications in 4 months is not normal, cautious psychiatric care, or at least it shouldn’t be. But it probably is relatively normal. And that’s the problem: it’s pure pharmacological, psychological chaos, and nobody bats an eye because this is just how the system runs…

[Prof. Peter C Gøtzsche @PGtzsche1]

Lindsay Clancy killed her three children and tried to kill herself. The jurors are deliberating. Read psychiatrist David Healy’s excellent account about psych drugs causing command hallucinations. https://t.co/6X3J39Riu4. She should be acquitted. See also https://t.co/rFBCFnEvNG