@biigrem ?? If you'd rather live a primitive tribal existence, you can absolutely do that. But it's much, much, much more difficult than working a 21st century job and your standard of living will be much, much, much lower. But you do you.
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123 Canada has welfare. If you tell me a zip code I can help you access resources. But the OP was about the US and you argued with that too.
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123 ?? Give an example I'm not considering. What's an example of a budget that can provide enough unhealthy food to result in obesity.
@NewProgressUSA I'm not against an economically sustainable UBI as a replacement for means-tested government programs. But most people who endorse UBI are just fantasizing about taking other people's money. And that's not economically sustainable (or ethical).
@VojtechHolasek@sigmahamster2 Free economies are more economically productive than captured economies. Just like natural ecosystems are more ecologically productive than zoos.
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123@GR1FF1NONE ?? Canada doesn't tax you 60% of your income. And just like in the US, anyone who is obese in Canada could be choosing healthier food options for the same budget.
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123@GR1FF1NONE It's not difficult to feed children in countries like the US or Canada that have generous food programs. And it's not harder to feed them nutritionally dense food than it is to feed them non-nutritious foods.
@nulltrace@RonStorey5 False. Compare modern economies. Poor people in capitalist economies have higher standards of living than average people in not-capitalist economies. Cubans dont' have reliable Internet. Chinese people don't have dishwahsers or clothes dryers -- 21.5% don't have flush toilets.
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123@GR1FF1NONE You're arguing with you. Not with me, not with the OP, and not with economic reality. And I don't get the guardian thing -- I had kids that are now grown and have also been guardian to a niece for several years. But what does that have to do with anything I've said?
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123@GR1FF1NONE No matter what budget or time constraint you use to justify low-nutrient food choices, you could choose high nutrient foods within that same budget.
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123@GR1FF1NONE Regardless of how stressed families are or whether they feel like cooking or whatever, nobody in the US is obese becaue they can't afford/don't have access to nutritional food. And poor people in communist countries are much poorer and just as stressed if not more, right?
@Randomperv75399@Darknesshas123@GR1FF1NONE ?? Families qualify for higher SNAP allotments. Nobody in the United States is obese because they can't afford nutritious food. And low income Americans have refrigeration.
@Upstate_Life@GreenWayForward ?? Okay, but the OP is saying that most people don't agree with him. So how do you reconcile that with a representative government unless you localize or compromise?
@Upstate_Life@GreenWayForward of voters are politically right of your goals, then your goals should either be more localized to the point where you have a great majority. Or you need to compromise to build consensus with people who aren't on your side now, right?
@Upstate_Life@GreenWayForward ?? I think you're going by the video the OP is mocking, not the OP. "you know you’re speaking to a dipshit median voter when they think the democrats have gone far left" suggests the median voter is a dipshit and the democrats have NOT gone far enough left. But if the majority
@Upstate_Life@GreenWayForward Also, tyranny by the majority is still tyranny. In a country as populous and politically diverse as the US, shouldn't we strive for local consensus rather than 51% trying to force policies on the 49%?
@Upstate_Life@GreenWayForward ?? Isn't the OP complaining about the median voter? Like he wants policies that are more left than what most Americans want? Was that not your takeaway?