@Aparantak Devagiri Jadhavrayas,
Baglana-Venugrama Rāṣṭrakūṭas,
Khelna-Sangameshwar Cālukyas,
Halebid Sīrkes,
Indapura-Bankapura Kadamrayas…
All these 96k Kṣatriya clans defended Dharma in Maharáshtra before the rise of Bhonsale Chattrapatis.
@Zoomerjeet Yes. But op is ragebaiting based on a single, uncorroborated account. Kāshiraj had written several incidents which weren't mentioned by other sources and messed up the dates as well. Territorial adjustments would've been mutual as the last offer by the Durrani envoy was rejected.
Kāshiraj is just one side of the coin.
He was writing ~2 decades after the war and his account has been proven wrong at several points.
👇 from Imad-Us-Saadat by Sayyid Ghulam Ali Naqvi & *contemporary* Panipātchi Bakhar.
Reverberates of Maratha demands uptil the HinduKoh Mts.
According to this contemporary account, Sadashivrao Bhau (the Maratha commander) replied to Shuja-ud-Daula that he had no personal quarrel with Ahmad Shah Durrani (Abdali). Abdali was free to return to Afghanistan whenever he wished.
Bhau proposed that all territory beyond the Attock River (west of the Indus, towards Afghanistan) should remain under Ahmad Shah Durrani’s control, while the lands on this side of the Attock should belong to the chiefs of Hindustan (Indian rulers), who could divide and govern them among themselves.
If Abdali was not satisfied with that arrangement, Bhau was willing to let him keep territory up to Lahore. And if Abdali demanded even more, Bhau suggested he could possess land up to Sirhind, with the rest remaining under the rulers of Hindustan.
Contrary to many modern films on Panipat, which depict the Marathas as unwilling to surrender even an inch beyond Attock, this contemporary account suggests the opposite. Bhau appears willing to negotiate extensive territorial concessions—from lands beyond Attock to even Lahore or Sirhind—in order to reach a peaceful settlement with Ahmad Shah Durrani. 😐
@vagbhatachauhan I've posted how Kāshiraj is proven wrong by those very same Bakhars.
https://t.co/jEYtnR5hHu
Kindly read properly before excreting such arguments.
2 Persian sources + 2 Marathi sources contradict Kāshiraj who mentions Marathas conceding gains to Afghans. Makes no sense.
@Indic_Chronicle has anything contrary I will very much happy to accept your claim to be true. Regarding irregularities in casi writings for the incident I must say a person quoting bakhar should be the last one to comment anything as such about irregularities.
He was contemporary but he himself was writing from a much later date. And there are several inconsistencies with his work.
Imad-Us-Saadat was also of a later date but the chronicler would've had access to records.
Shejwalkar has criticised Raghunath Yadav's Bakhar…
First of all casi raja pandit (he himself was a Marathi only) is a contemporary eyewitness of the battle of Panipat. Second here what Marathi historian have to say about the source your are quoting. Now coming after immad ud sadat ,please share the Persian text where it says so
@vagbhatachauhan I had posted a Marathi translation of the peace parleys b/w the two sides as stated by Ghulam Ali Naqvi. Two Marathi sources wr. near to the event (Kāshiraj wrote ~2 decades later and his work has many mistakes) corroborate it.
From Najīb's biography 👇
https://t.co/BDmMfh65ck
Sarguzasht-o-Najibuddaulah by Nuruddin also writes of peace negotiations and unlike Kāshiraj, the author mentions how the Durranis and others were ready for a quick peace.
That's until Qazi Qidris intervened and flayed their emotions with the idea of a Jehaad.
Sarguzasht-o-Najibuddaulah by Nuruddin also writes of peace negotiations and unlike Kāshiraj, the author mentions how the Durranis and others were ready for a quick peace.
That's until Qazi Qidris intervened and flayed their emotions with the idea of a Jehaad.
Bhausahebānchi Kaifiyat written by a close associate of Sadashivpant, and completed within a short time of the event, further corroborates it.
∴ The peace parleys stated by Kāshiraj are contradicted by 3 different sources.
I don't have the original M.S.
https://t.co/vqx0CZBlSS
First of all casi raja pandit (he himself was a Marathi only) is a contemporary eyewitness of the battle of Panipat. Second here what Marathi historian have to say about the source your are quoting. Now coming after immad ud sadat ,please share the Persian text where it says so
@BmaAnirudh@LalitAditya1212 Kutch is a desert.
Kabul and Zabul held off for ~4 centuries (640s - 1020). That's a pretty long struggle.
Rutbils (Zabul) worshiped a form of Bhagwan Shiva 👇
https://t.co/1kbj3afuiJ
Sindh had 273 Hindu temples as per Hiuen Tsiang. Balkh was also under Hindu influence.
@viprabuddhi@prathgodbole Zunbils worshipped a local form of Bhagwan Shiva. Most of Balochistan and Sindh were under the Hindu Brahman dynasty.
Balkh & Badakhshan seem to have been the uppermost limits of proper Hindu influence as the Kabul chiefs had little control in the region.
Now as for offering lands, it were Durrani Shahs who were requesting Maharaja Mahadji Shinde's assistance against Sikh Misls and VOLUNTARILY ceding territories with their own stakes on, to Marathas.
All lands till Lahore + 10,000 cavalry whenever required
https://t.co/Fixg7A2t5X
According to this contemporary account, Sadashivrao Bhau (the Maratha commander) replied to Shuja-ud-Daula that he had no personal quarrel with Ahmad Shah Durrani (Abdali). Abdali was free to return to Afghanistan whenever he wished.
Bhau proposed that all territory beyond the Attock River (west of the Indus, towards Afghanistan) should remain under Ahmad Shah Durrani’s control, while the lands on this side of the Attock should belong to the chiefs of Hindustan (Indian rulers), who could divide and govern them among themselves.
If Abdali was not satisfied with that arrangement, Bhau was willing to let him keep territory up to Lahore. And if Abdali demanded even more, Bhau suggested he could possess land up to Sirhind, with the rest remaining under the rulers of Hindustan.
Contrary to many modern films on Panipat, which depict the Marathas as unwilling to surrender even an inch beyond Attock, this contemporary account suggests the opposite. Bhau appears willing to negotiate extensive territorial concessions—from lands beyond Attock to even Lahore or Sirhind—in order to reach a peaceful settlement with Ahmad Shah Durrani. 😐
The *last* offer for peace was initiated by Durrani envoy which Senadhyaksh Sadashivpant turned down.
After the hard fought fluke victory with no decisive results, Durr i-Durran Ahmad Shah Abdali again opened peace dialogues & CONCEDED Delhi to the Marathas.
Cajoling & wheeling.
@gajak06 Martyred or for fighting for some generations?
Generational continuity in wars wasn't rare.
This is for Sisodiyas –
Maharana Sangramsinh
Maharana UdaiSinh
Maharana Pratap Singh
Maharana Amar Singh
@DelusionPosting Whyte Xitians lost Constantinople, couldn't recover Jerusalem and are being replaced by third world migrants and submerged in the leftoid-liberal worldview.
And to cope, you guys post random snipps from unrelated online fights. What a shame.
https://t.co/86OF2WY54A
@Amankha33446448 Both sieges of Bharatpur resulted in severe losses for the British army, dusting the myth of their invincibility. That's why I included those.
And no, Anglos were not invincible.
Tech and tactics were on par with Indian states until the 1790s.
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Never dared to oppose any native state at its peak 'cause they knew they would get their a#$es pounded in the most brutal way.
Battles against Angres,
First Anglo-Mysore War,
First Anglo Maratha War,
Battle of Pollilur (won by on field efforts of Hindus),
Siege of Bharatpur…
@Amankha33446448 His state's continued existence was on Nana Farnavis' decision. Otherwise Cornwallis would've gulped down Mysore in its entirety in 1792 itself.
Sikhs fought much later and although they crowned themselves some impressive victories, the outcome was pretty much sealed then.
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