@CapitalistCrus1@EpsilonTheory It's not a direct comparison. It's a commentary on how the public and government can become so used to the advantages of the status quo they seek to change it because they don't understand what rests on it.
The US doesn't have the power to remain the global power alone
@GreenEyedJinn@sleepy_devo@infantrydort Taking Greenland would almost certainly lead to a curtailment of US bases in Europe which leaves you massively reduced in conventional power in the eastern hemisphere, and it means the other ends of your sosus net are no longer connecting to unquestionable allies
@GreenEyedJinn@sleepy_devo@infantrydort Lol I believe exactly none of those credentials.
And Thule AFB is a BMEWS station, it's never had any active interceptors based there because locating them in CONUS is always going to be more effective, however you could put them there if you want
@nam_okk 1. We already know
2. My point was we'll fight much harder than anyone expected
3. Oldest line in the book mate, I'm sure Poland believed that in 1939
4. Denmark gives millions to Greenland alongside essentially home rule.
@reportingLibya @RobertDalton02 @nikicaga Yeah it's not like the navies of Europe have spent the last 70 years in a close multilateral partnership focused on defending the northern Atlantic form a hostile superpower
Oh wait
Oh and they couldn't possibly deploy a CBG successfully
Oh...
@nam_okk@MichaelShurkin Greenland is currently danish land. The Greenlanders have the choice already and they don't want to join the US, who are actively threatening military action.
Remember the last time a continental American power tried to take a European island territory near a pole?
@nam_okk@MichaelShurkin Western Europe is a huge portion of the world's developed consumer economies and population. Actively making a large portion of the world's best paid people hate you won't do good things for trade, neither will basically all trust in any US treaties ending
@nam_okk@MichaelShurkin Because having the NATO guarantees not only the containment of Russia, but also de facto control of the Atlantic, med and suez as well as a large pool of various specialist or additional troops to call on. And that's just the military
@reportingLibya @RobertDalton02 @nikicaga Except that's bullshit. The USN is a significant portion of NATO naval forces but Europe can get anything up to a carrier group deployed by itself no problem
@CapitalistCrus1@EpsilonTheory Oh boy you fuckers deserve everything that's coming.
I watched the exact same argument in the 2016 Brexit vote lead to disaster
"Why do we need the status quo? We get nothing from Europe so let's leave!"
You don't notice the subtle benefits of our near total alignment
@CapitalistCrus1@EpsilonTheory That's certainly the line behind pushed by russian bots and hard right cranks yes. But it's bullshit and if anything it's the US diverging from Europe, choosing a path of militant isolationism and violation of law and order within and without
@CapitalistCrus1@EpsilonTheory So you think isolating yourselves and attempting to rely on your ability to exert direct control or threat of force is going to be a viable long term strategy even against allies that were helping you? You think being fundimentaly untrustworthy is good for your economy?
@nam_okk@MichaelShurkin The amount of money and effort that the US would have expend through Europe no longer being on side would be huge. all the bases, patrols, trade, tourism ect that would suddenly cease or no longer come easily will stun you.
Our interests will no longer be yours
@nam_okk@MichaelShurkin The GIUK gap has been under effective total NATO control for decades and the US has had almost total European cooperation in just about everything it's done. I don't think you understand the implications of pissing off the 2nd largest economy