I've now spent the last three years traveling around the U.S. and the world, lecturing, preaching, and fellowshipping with pastors and parishioners.
I've learned much. I especially learned about the online culture that bleeds into congregational life. I spent hours with congregants, and especially in fellowship with men. Here is what I noticed about some of the gregarious online personalities who initially showed up with enormous zeal and quickly retreated into their ecclesial castles online.
And to me, it is fascinating, and more than a little revealing—and amusing— that many of the men (thankfully, very few were CREC) demanding a government that promotes Christianity (something I, too, affirm) and insisting that the nations submit to Christ are often incapable of submitting to their own local pastors in ordinary ecclesiastical matters.
They want presidents, magistrates, and nations to bow the knee to King Jesus (three cheers for the magisterial reformers!!!), but they bristle when a pastor or elder asks them to be patient, receive correction, demonstrate self-awareness in their social media posts, or something similar (-3 cheers for the magisterial reformers!!!). Mind you, these requests were done in a spirit of humility, and not in any way tyrannical. I witnessed them myself.
There is a deep contradiction here. Many of these guys talk like theocrats online, but they function as ecclesial anarchists. A man who cannot submit to the church he can see is not in a strong position to lecture the nation about submission to the Christ he cannot see. If he cannot be governed in the ordinary place where God has actually put him, under the leadership of a local, godly, Bible-believing pastor (Heb. 13:17), his political theology becomes performative.
This is where their Christian nationalism dies a thousand deaths. Not first in Congress, courtrooms, or constitutional debates, but in their own refusal to live out the thing they demand from others. They call for Christian order while embodying ecclesiastical disorder.
Before a man can speak credibly about Christianizing the nations, he should be able to belong somewhere. They should be willing to receive shepherding from someone and to bear with imperfect saints who don't share the same level of apocalypticism as they do. And that means honoring lawful ecclesial authority. Otherwise, his grand vision is just baptized individualism with a flag attached. And that's no way to Christianize anything.
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@DrJoeBoot Exactly My brother, I predict that Joel Webbon will support the death penalty for interracial couples in a few years. Mark my words, given how frequently he changes his positions.
@Reformed_Rican Extraclly, it is amazing how bad their arguments are once these guys come out of their eco chamber. Ruslan and the others did a good job.
Notice the pseudo-masculinity gurus often act like social media is a literal battlefield.
It’s pathetic. When a man isn’t using his strength rightly, he has to invent battlefields in his mind.
@Brian_Sauve I agree if found guilty, this man deserves execution. But you often complain when women share their grievances online, yet you’re doing the same thing here. That comes across as a bit hypocritical.”