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@SLOplays Of all forms, Super Saiyan God is definitely what I'm looking for to be in Xenoverse. Can't wait to use that on my Cac.

P. S. Those screenshots were NOT take with mods or external editors, just with Saturation from Xenoverse Photo Mode, Kaioken and Hakai.

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@ShaoxBASED @Gastar805 @Promithean11 - Yhwach was robbed of his powers, so no spiritual pressure.

– Thry only held the opening in the sky... Well, open.

- Soifon hasn't been fighting for a while now, so why would she lack reiryoku?

- That's Urahara being Urahara.

- He didn't, he let go of it before the explosion

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@ZombroVT It wasn't deflecting, it was straight up matching Beerus punches.

By colliding with the same strength, they generated shockwaves that threatened the universe.

When Beerus overpowered Goku or Goku let himself be hit, the shockwaves ceased.

So yes, it does count for Goku.

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@HanLiu94982 @Timely_Serpivia Honestly, I don't like the idea, even as a F2P. I feel like they'll have too limit the screentime of a Sunbringer or butcher how long you can use one.

I mean, what if the only one I want is Lindverne?

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@Sekteratdm @LeonUchiha20 @NinjaGamesYt A battle involving Goku with Goku being partly to blame for it, and yet you say it has nothing to do with Goku...

The heck are you on about?

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@Sekteratdm @LeonUchiha20 @NinjaGamesYt Yes, it does. The only reason why the collision was happening in the first place was because their powers were matched.

When Beerus put more power or Goku just let himself took the hit, the shockwaves stopped.

Of course, Beerus was holding back, but still.

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@Sekteratdm @LeonUchiha20 @NinjaGamesYt Watch the anime or read the manga, the shockwaves go so far that they reach the World of the Supreme Kais, which is FAR away from Earth.

In the anime, those waves even DISINTEGRATE entire PLANETS.

And those shockwaves are cause by equal force from both Goku and Beerus.

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@NightWalke72639 @flyshyva You could interpret it that way, though I doubt they consider it to be the case anymore.

That power the SSG Transformation and SBG state.

Doesn't seem like they can use God powers in base all that well, they need their transformation to handle it.

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@flyshyva @BLACKANDREDVOID It's really a race against time for Goku.

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@arniiox @OnekGaming @OnePunch_Daily And? Goku could transform instantly and blocked it.

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@DaBoss3077 @OnekGaming @OnePunch_Daily His potential is limitless as he grows infinitely.

However, that growth is not instant. Goku's transformations are.

If Saitama tried the Zero Punch, Goku could simply transform and shrug it off.

Saitama lacks immediate power, not power in general.

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@GathlyV @OnekGaming @OnePunch_Daily He grows infinitely, but not instantly. It takes some time.

Meanwhile, if Goku feels threatened, he can instantly transform and reset the power dynamic of the fight.

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@NinjaGamesYt They didn't need to do that, they just gave him that for fun.

Every transformation would have been enough to deal with Saitama.

Goku's growth would have been instant, reseting the scales in Goku's favor and giving him the opening to one-shot Saitama before he catches up.

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@kingobart39958 Can't survive for long, but can survive.

Krillin in the Saiyan Saga could, so why couldn't Goku?

Nothing really says they couldn't be used together.

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@Sekteratdm @LeonUchiha20 @NinjaGamesYt Just his fist clashing with Beerus was creating shock waves that would destroy the universe.

The break through dimension doesn't need statement, as we can see it in action.

Same for the Goku destroying Hit's pocket dimension.

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@Tatsuya_RyuK @SinnyBd It's still wild though. Goku's own strength rivaled and surpassed the strength of an entire universe.

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@bis16697 @SinnyBd Saitama definitely has a win-con in this fight.

However, Goku has too many opportunities to win the battle immediately if he so chooses.

Any transformation and/or Kaioken can reset the battle for Goku.

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@oceanmanef @SinnyBd Yes, which is why the move is so insanely powerful. It's like an Universal Spirit Bomb in the form of a Black Hole.

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@AlwaysWrightDM @NinjaGamesYt Yeah, if it takes too long, the battle ends with Saitama winning.

However, Goku has the advantage that his growth is INSTANT thanks to his transformations.

If Goku exploits that window, he wins, and he can create that window at least 10 times, so... Odds are in his favor.

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@Sekteratdm @LeonUchiha20 @NinjaGamesYt And yet he's strong enough to destroy the whole universe, a universe bigger than ours in fact.

He's capable of breaking through dimensions (As current Goku is stronger than Broly when he did it)

Can destroy a pocket dimension (Rematch with Hit).

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@cloutxyx He did 100 against Slug.

That I concede.

Does canonicity matter? As long as it is official, I don't think it matters for a Death Battle.