@shuledz@DanCollins2011 I mean, I think Lebron James would be an elite footballer if that's what he chose to specialize in since he was little
I also think Ronaldo would be one of the best WRs of all time.
It's not a mutually exclusive venn diagram of skill/mindset and it's also not a single circle
@Gee__Gazza You are completely underselling the level of technical ability and IQ needed at the highest levels of other sports.
You're just making a no-brainer argument: if you specialize at a specific skill you get really good at that specific skill and can't fully apply it to another
@jeffreyboadi_ The implication that other professional team sports don't take advantage of high game IQ and that football is far and away this brainy sport in another realm of athletics is ridiculous.
It's specialized training and elite athletes that start young gain IQ in the sport of choice
@savanah2j The point is more is our very best in Basketball, football, hockey, and baseball requires a lot of skill as well. People are rarely successful in those sports off raw athleticism, they have also trained extensively and developed skillset. If they dedicated training to soccer...
@JahangirAsgha10 Yeah unfortunately a lot of youth sports in America has turned into a for-profit extortion culture in the way you describe. It's sucked the fun out of it for organized sports and I see the culture even bleeding into rec leagues (club kids also sign up for rec).
@de_Nunez_@Captain_SMS81@TigersJUK I'm saying it's a cultural thing that takes time. Soccer was a fringe sport at best until 15-20 years ago. While it's growing in popularity, it will take time for the cultural roots to grow. In other sporting analogies, the cultural roots are long, storied,and deep
@de_Nunez_@Captain_SMS81@TigersJUK Basketball is the 2nd most popular sport in Serbia and a lot of those countries have deep history with basketball and it's likely up there for 2nd in popularity. I get the point you're trying to make, but it's a straw man argument.
@de_Nunez_@Captain_SMS81@TigersJUK To be fair, basketball is pretty big culturally in the parts of Europe where of superstars like Doncic and Jokic. I don't think it's fair to say it's not very popular, when it's pretty big in the Balkans and other Slavic countries
@de_Nunez_@Captain_SMS81@TigersJUK To put in perspective, 7/10 of the top 10, 14/20 of the top 20, and 21/30 of the top 30 points per game leaders of the last season are American. The next closest is Canada with 3 out of the top 30. Granted that's just the points metric, but you get the idea
@de_Nunez_@Captain_SMS81@TigersJUK There are some great European MVPs, but USA is still by miles the best team in the world with the most depth. In the football analogy, the team/club with the best player in the world is not necessarily the best team/club, it's about the best group of players and depth of squad.
@ZuzuOnFire I think the reason you are seeing this discourse is because of a growing soccer culture that has a proportion large enough to be disappointed and want more. Still true that it's the minority, but the US is a big country and the minority is now the size of other soccer nations
@FMLogos_rocheyb@THEChrisKessell I really wish we could've bowed out on a high note not just performance wise but culturally as well. A hard fought loss without our star striker is a fine narrative. Leaving the highlight as the world rejoicing our people and culture beyond the screen of our polarizing politics
@TaborJohn1@THEChrisKessell C'mon bro. Love Trump all you want, but you know he and FIFA totally killed the vibe. We don't want politics mixing with sport; even the suggestion of it by POTUS as bullshit as it may be is cringe.
@MaxiMil24@THEChrisKessell Energy and morale has an effect on groups. It's not Trump directly, but the entire fallout of the Balogun drama and how it affects the team. It didn't feel right as a fan, it didn't feel right to (most of) the world, it's not absurd thinking it also didn't feel right to the team.
@o2felt@therach1314@AlexiLalas Exactly. That's why I still believe that, yeah pay-to-play is bullshit, but the real core of beating it starts from the ground up as a culture. Kids wanting to do it in their free time. Knowledgeable (not win hungry) adults wanting to volunteer their time. For love of the game.
@de_Nunez_@Captain_SMS81@TigersJUK The culture is just there where not only are kids playing all day long, but the sport is funded by the community with time&money (namely bball and American football) in a way football/soccer doesn't come close in the US: mostly individual family funded instead.
@StanUsmnt I know it's trite and misses $ nuance, but I think it is still very much a culture first thing. The US is still very much the best basketball team with the most depth despite not producing the MVP. Greater % of US kids bleed basketball or football or baseball than soccer.