IvoryF8

Never talked on twt much in the first place but this accs probs only gonna be used to talk abt zeal things, I don't rly want to get harrased but im free to chat

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@mateoxavier2008 @Hens_chknrice what, when?

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@osilotl @IncognitoPersey @savella_silver so your saying we cant trust that she didn't leave out or change things? who knows what else she didn't say she didn't do in her doc. Perhaps we should look at things more critically and not blindly trust everything in that doc

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@hiddenreplies12 @McBlox64 @matyas1ce @angelblossomsss Anything Ren did to ruin her reputation she did herself, regardless Zeal never holds that over her in any way. And if we're talking about BPDs fear of abandonment, how does that have anything to do with Zeal? That affects every relationship of Rens that she has ever had

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@Zeno_Mallow We also have no idea who is on his acc at any given time, His mom isnt the only person with access. Furthermore, given how Ren has alrdy made several statements on her server regarding the case, some of which directly contradicting whats in the doc. It now has potential evidence

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@Zeno_Mallow I heavily doubt his mom and close family members would be lying about the situation. We alrdy know this is his mom as Ren and other dev team members have spoken to her in the past, along with other proof like her twitter accs date of creation

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@jace_maes @NickElements @raxyelreyrata19 Like, In messages like this, Ren is not saying that she did not want sex. She is saying that she would've been more invested had zeal let her get ready beforehand. He went too fast, and it made it more difficult for them to enjoy it together.

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@jace_maes @NickElements @raxyelreyrata19 If we're talking purely evidence ( ignoring the text Ren attaches ). There are multiple messages in which Ren implies or directly says she consented. The story painted by evidence is that she loved zeal and while surprised initially, liked the encounter and wanted more.

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@P1ayer2345 @Mudhole__ @Ender24818548 Not rly, if someone's bad at sex it can cause pain, its a fair point even if it sounds pathetic af. Regardless that doesn't excuse making fun of a suicide note, Just like Ren saying things Zeal defenders think are dumb doesn't excuse them

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@NickElements @raxyelreyrata19 All the evidence in the doc literally points toward that not being true

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@Nova0z @Ahhly_97 Hmmm, tbh the fact that she posted it so quickly after kinda implies that she knew about asking for the kiss before even posting the doc. which would imply that she actively lied when not including that.

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

The fact that Ren cannot even admit to lying at least once in her document despite verifiably doing so. choosing instead to label everything under “mistakes,” should clearly show that she is not trustworthy. She is actively manipulating her supporters

[Pandemonium30 @Pand3m0nium30]

Ren's recent announcement in Ren Sillies channel, read this thoroughly and comment your conclusions

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@P1ayer2345 @Mudhole__ @Ender24818548 the video was a suicide note, they made fun of his suicide note. the video that was scheduled to be posted after he offed himself. And dont act like ppl werent celebrating his potential death at the time, everyone knew exactly what they were doing

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@JowhFelix @esdsd1350228 @SasmitaSar18110 okay, could you like, put in quotations what part you think he admits it? because nothing near this time stamp sounds like an admission.

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@Pand3m0nium30 Why cant she just admit she lied even once? Always calling things a mistake for no reason other than to just manipulate her supporters. She has verifiably lied? At this point its so obvious

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@NickElements there was no coercion, furthermore I'm guessing you don't know the context of that message because if you did, you'd realize its them talking about why she didnt get wet and ways she thinks they can make it happen. Also in this very same message she says implies consent was given

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@Zeno_Mallow @Dr_Woke_ By lying, Ren has stolen the brunt of the attention with a huge accusation. Instead of talking about the very real issues, we are now having to discuss this single topic. Had Ren been truthful and coordinated with others, this entire thing would be far more simple

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@LuunaticInk Its not that she hasn't given enough evidence, its that she has been proven to have lied multiple times in her doc. Regardless, While i agree that there is harm in mocking ren, I find it hypocritical how ppl like this are only just now saying they didnt like the remix videos

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@80zsz80 @valentine32971 Zeal has never done more than just admit he and Ren had sex. What are you talking about?

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

here is your answer, she gets to take down the game of the people she hates, and gets to ruin the reputation of the person who rejected her, and made her feel like shit. Its prty simple, everything else like the attention and whatnot is just a bonus

[MaricCraft (Working on Pressure!Nexus) @MaricCraft]

Let me ask you all something: if they are, what does Ren have to gain here?

It can’t be fame, they already had tens of thousands of followers before this. Can’t be money, they already stated they don’t want people’s donations.

That’s why I can’t believe the idea that they lied.

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@MaricCraft Furthermore, on the point of coercion, she literally confesses to it and then proceeds to give her reasoning. Explaining that getting close to zeal had increased her fears of abandonment, which she notes is something she often experiences in other close relationships

[IvoryF8 @Ivory2131]

@MaricCraft I feel like both claims are valid, Ren could very well be doing things out of malice, these message show that her hatred of the pressure higher ups had existed even before RDC, and that she had large amnts of jealousy towards what they had.