I find the characterisation of people who still care about #SARSCoV2 hilarious.
We're supposed to be crazy outcast losers, but this group might be the most reasonable, sane and heroic group I've had the pleasure of encountering.
We just don't follow the pack.
To me it feels like the talk of jet fuel melting steel beams & controlled demolitions all over again.
Humans love a cohesive narrative, but sometimes it really is just a random event where those with power decide to capitalise on it to further their own preexisting agenda.
No, it IS about whether having looked at the circumstantial evidence and decided on the balance of probably it does not support this theory of the case.
This ๐could be correct, but I have to find "not proven". But that's just my opinion, others may interpret it differently.
@J0MBi1 it's not about whether you "buy" it, it's about evidence. they sampled 80,000 wildlife samples, couldnt find the supposed intermediary host (which was found in just 6months in case of sars1). emerged near a BatCov lab that proposed inserting FCS.
"nightmare of circ. evidence"
It's also a bit of a gateway drug to all kinds of out there speculation on the "true purpose" of SARSCoV2, which is something I really don't want to spend my time discussing. The underlying facts of the virus & the government response is so bad that I'd much rather focus on that.
@EntropyChase This theory has been popular for a while and I often revisit it, but I'm not really interested in arguing for or against it, because it's sort of a moot point. Unless there is also hidden research on a sterilising vaccine to go along with it, I find it neither here nor there.
#SARSCoV2 is as big an issue as climate change, but to my knowledge there's no political party taking it seriously anymore in the West.
Or am I wrong here?
@HistorianBlue On top of this it's not entirely clear how long the virus persists for, there's talk of it continuing to linger and cause ongoing problems months down the line. Trying to build "herd immunity" via infection is like trying to build flood defences out of tissue paper.
@HistorianBlue From my understanding - to rid your body of SARSCoV2 your immune system uses up vital resources each time and potentially permanently harms your ability to fight future infections. So instead of building an immunity each infection just makes you increasingly vulnerable.
@EntropyChase Yeah, I don't buy that theory personally. There's an estimated excess of 5000 pandemic capable viruses in natural habitats, and environmental destruction brings humans into direct contact with them. But I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
@EntropyChase They are so tightly connected I see them as parts of the same thing. Both are absolute catastrophes which need action RIGHT NOW. Getting people engaged in collective action is the key to dealing with both.
@J0MBi1 At what point do we declare that these two issues, are actually one broader issue? I think each issue is going to make it more difficult to tackle the other, but certainly at some point, they are going to horribly collide.
@AltenbergLee It put the prime minister of the UK in ICU. And it's too early to say what is going to happen in the next few years.
But I really don't think it's an either or with this. They are both so tightly connected both in their cause and those who oppose action on them.
I don't agree with it, but I can understand why the political elite decided in 2020 to lie about the effectiveness of masks AND the dangers of #SARSCoV2
They were unprepared and worried about mass panic.
But it's completely unacceptable to continue lying about it 2 years later.
@AltenbergLee Because it just occurred to me that political parties are at least acknowledging that climate change is real where I am. But even environmentalists seem to think they are immune to airborne HIV or that it's a hoax, both need the same solution - collective action, right now
What do we think about this folks?
Not disputing the climate part, but is a child born today going to make it to 50 if by their teens they have AIDS, along with *every other human on the planet*?
@J0MBi1 The British Empire ran fine at its peak in 1920 with life expectancy 49 years.
SARS2 is nowhere near to putting us back there.
"Civilization owes its existence to 6" of topsoil & the fact that it rains."
Famine from climate change could end the preconditions for civilization.
@Whitevessen1 Just can't believe the short sightedness of these folk. Wtf are they gonna retire to? What good is that money and "freedom" gonna do them when they are dying a death?